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Re: Price Comparisons [toykick]
by woodshop28
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Jan 20, 2006 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: toykick (Jan 19, 2006 9:44 pm)
I am not sure what the point of this post is, but I believe both the Nissan and Toyota 6-cyl engines have a form of variable intake. The ridgeline's engine is no more powerful than the other trucks.
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Re: Price Comparisons [toykick]
by thegraduate
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Jan 20, 2006 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: toykick (Jan 19, 2006 9:44 pm)
I noticed in a recent test of a Pontiac G6, that it had variable lift timing, even though it is still a pushrod engine. A "VTec/Vvti - like system may not be that far away for MANY automakers. After all, it is tuned to bring torque numbers up down low, and helps raise peak horsepower up high. I remember driving a 1994 Dodge Ram 5.2 V-8 (220 hp, I think). It had plenty of get up off the line, but punch it at 60 mph, and it had nothing for the driver when compared to a Ridgeline. Add to that it got 11 mpg when driving it to work, and I'd say that VTec is a good thing.
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My Comparo
by demoncleaner
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Jan 20, 2006 (7:52 am)
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All these trucks were redone or released in the past 2 years, so you'd think a competive field... This is simple. Toyota, Honda, and Nissan did their homework before releasing thier trucks. Each has design features to meet what different truck buyers want. They were significantly improved over the previous model (except Honda as its new). Dodge just made small changes. The Colorado is a prime example of what is wrong with US car manufacurers. From a clean sheet, GM designers managed to make another S-10, with little upgrade to what they had before.
I have driven them all. The Dakota was ok. The Frontier was nice, the Ridgeline was as well, but not the vehicle for me. I drove 2 Colorados. Didn't compare to the others, at all. I loved the Tacoma, so thats what I bought. Very happy with my decision.
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Re: My Comparo [demoncleaner]
by varmint
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Jan 20, 2006 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: demoncleaner (Jan 20, 2006 7:52 am)
Except for the fact that you can get them dirt cheap (and they look nice, in a GMish way), I can't think of a good reason to go with the Colorado/Canyon. They had to cut costs to bring this to market. I can accept that. But the result is a truly compromised vehicle. I think they might've been better off cancelling the S10, saving their pennies, and trying again in a few years.
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Re: My Comparo [demoncleaner]
by thegraduate
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Jan 20, 2006 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: demoncleaner (Jan 20, 2006 7:52 am)
I like the Tacoma as well, but with a couple of issues I find fault with...It drink premium gasoline (a problem for me, since oil prices are at $68.35 the instant I write this (CNBC television is on, haha). That makes its economy kinda iffy IMO. The other issue was the fact that I couldn't see the stereo readout with my polarized sunglasses on! I know this sounds like a tiny issue, but I only wear polarized, so over time, this can get VERY annoying! Congratulations on your purchase, demoncleaner.
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Re: My Comparo [thegraduate]
by pb2themax
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Jan 20, 2006 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 20, 2006 12:48 pm)
The new Tacomas don't have to have premium gas. I have tried all grades in my V6 4.0 liter. No difference in power, MPG, or engine noise. 10k miles and no problems. Very happy with my purchase.
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Re: My Comparo [pb2themax]
by thegraduate
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Jan 20, 2006 (9:29 pm)
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Replying to: pb2themax (Jan 20, 2006 4:58 pm)
Toyota says themselves that premium is reccommended, but regular can be run with "reduced performance". I imagine the engineers know what they're talking about.
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Re: My Comparo [thegraduate]
by rsholland
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Jan 21, 2006 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 20, 2006 9:29 pm)
If I'm not mistaken, the Xterra and Frontier are tuned to run on "regular," while the Pathfinder (with 5 more hp) is tuned to run on "premium."
Frankly, I think all these vehicles (Toyotas too) should be tuned to run on "regular." I believe the Ridgeline and Pilot are tuned to run on "regular." Not sure about the MDX?
Bob
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Re: Price Comparisons [thegraduate]
by bill55
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Jan 21, 2006 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 20, 2006 6:40 am)
The idea of the VVTI engine is also for improved emmisions.
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- #20 of 751
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Re: Price Comparisons [bill55]
by thegraduate
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Jan 21, 2006 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: bill55 (Jan 21, 2006 8:40 am)
Right, i'm assuming it is similar to Honda's VTEC, in that it runs with more restricted breathing at lower throttle-input/rpms to boost economy. Thank you for pointing out this important virtue of Variable Valve Timing.
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