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Replying to: carlots101 (Feb 21, 2006 11:32 am) Rocky P.S. I will sure miss the GTO, and thus I'm seriously considering getting me a copy. With a good rebate and my GM discount it might be the best money one could spend for 400hp. 
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 21, 2006 5:34 pm) |
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Replying to: socala4 (Feb 21, 2006 1:27 pm) In most cases it works the other way around with Retro's. You have the guy that just must have it and the one that is looking at the Fusion and the Stang catches his or her eye and drives it away. Ford has to build more then just one car of interest for the public to enter their show rooms or any other manufacture for that matter. Sedan and econobox buyers are just that and you have to talk them into buying a Mustang if you catch them looking at it.
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Replying to: toddbinfla (Feb 21, 2006 2:28 pm) This Holden-GTO definitely evokes the spirit of the GTO which is a big V8 (6.0 Liter) in a midsized 2 door car & very fast performance. This new GTO is the fastest-most powerfull GTO EVER BUILT. Unlike the original GTO's it can actually handle and brake quite nicely. Orig. GTO's were just straight line cars. "Today, the equivelant car would be somewhere in the low 20's. I do not see a retro vehicle with good performance being made at that price point. You would have to make to many, and then it just becomes another civic type vehicle." The new 2006 retro base $20k Mustang V6 with 210hp V6 does 0-60 in 6.9 seconds. 6.9 is quite fast. Which is just as fast or faster then any 1973 Mustang.
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Replying to: carfax (Feb 21, 2006 6:43 pm)  I guess I better do some hard thinking if I want a copy. Rocky P.S. If I get one it will be a 6 speed Black ext w/Red leather int. Plus sport package
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 21, 2006 8:01 pm) |
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Replying to: carlots101 (Feb 21, 2006 6:44 pm) But that is not significantly faster than most sedans and might accually be beaten by some. Muscle cars did two things well, they went fast and they raised the hair on your neck. If you have a V6 mustang today (remember everything is relative), you are not pulling away from an accord at a stop light. Now that said, my 73 had one of the most gutless 302's ever made with a red line of only 5900 and a 3 spd stick. I could do 105 but the car was howling, and forget about block racing, you had to get out of first gear at 20 mph and the shift patern was a reversed small h first was down and left, you had to up and right to second and down to third, and the shift gates were widely spaced. It was absolutely a cruiser not a muscle car. Let me also correct a statement made before about the spirit, certainly the go fast capability of the GTO captures the spirit, it just looks to much like everything else on the road. Maybe I was expecting more visual presence. You know a Corvette or Viper, a Mustang or Camaro/Firebird, hell even the somewhat stealthy GNX was painted in such a way that you knew something was different. The GTO body just resembles to much else on the road, and I think that detracts from its overall strength.
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Replying to: toddbinfla (Feb 22, 2006 5:24 am) I agree that I wish the GTO was a little more aggressive looking, but it's not a bad looking car. It does have arguably GM's best seats and interior quality. BTW the Azteck stands out on the road from far away too, so that isn't saying too much. 1 of the advantages sof the dull styling is that it's not a cop (traffic enforcement) magnet like the Mustang is. GTO has slight similiarties in appearance to the 2004 Mercedes CLK55 AMG 2 door. Look at the Motor Trend May 2004 article when they do the comparo and comparo pictures. The problem with the Mustang-Camaro is that they are a dime a dozen, you see way too many of them. Even Vettes in my area. I don't see many GTO's. For such a dull car, many people give me the thumbs up or say nice car or ask about it when I'm stopped in traffic or when I pull into a parking lot. It's gotten more attention that way then my Transam did years ago! |
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Replying to: toddbinfla (Feb 21, 2006 2:28 pm) The GTO was a Tempest/Lemans with a small hood scoop and a Catalina engine. The GTO isn't retro, but a direct decendent of the Monaro which was the Austrailian Chevelle SS. |
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Replying to: toddbinfla (Feb 21, 2006 7:04 am) Didn't handle? Just a small "detail," huh? I don't claim to know diddly squat about cars, and am definitely outclassed by the discussion here, but when I was a kid, I drove my father's late late 60's metalic gold Riviera. That mother hauled A! Heavy and steady on the road. Endless amounts of torque. 450 V8. Sleak and low, with a bullet fastback. Low leather buckets. Power everythang. Got me hauled before a judge one summer Sunday afternoon when I hit 80 shortly after the light turned green. How come all you hotrodders never mention this beast? How come it has been totally forgotten? (The sucker could leave a stock '60's Mustang V8 wondering what time it was.) 
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