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375 messages, Last post on Oct 02, 2008 at 9:08 PM
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See this Edmunds.com article! EPA Overhauls Fuel Economy Estimates for 2008 - As the 2008 model-year cars hit the lot, shoppers will notice a big difference — the EPA has changed its fuel economy testing methods to produce mileage estimates that reflect "real world" driving habits. - (more)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 11, 2006 3:50 pm) hah! As for hybrids, the new numbers may reduce showroom traffic, but they'll also reduce complaints by owners. Dealers have complained that they're legally not allowed to give realistic mileage numbers because you have to display the EPA figures. There could also be an effect on tall-geared engines like the Corvette (is "tall" correct?), which will suffer a greater change (proportionately) in revs at the more realistic highway speeds.
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Replying to: carlisimo (Jan 11, 2006 4:09 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 11, 2006 5:52 pm)
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Replying to: carlisimo (Jan 11, 2006 6:04 pm) Randy |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 11, 2006 3:50 pm) |
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Replying to: carlisimo (Jan 11, 2006 6:04 pm) The place where cars like the Corvette will suffer is the city test, not the highway test. They are going to shorten the cycling from cold for that portion, I believe. So instead of 1 10-mile drive with 40-some stops (or whatever the exact test is - I know it is something like that), they will do something more like 1 5-mile drive with 20 stops and 2 2.5-mile drives with 10 stops. With the engine getting cold in between. robertsmx: CAFE stays the same. BUA-HA-HA-HA! That is going to hit the domestics a lot harder than the rest, I think, but we will see. The hybrids obviously will drop a TON in rating - I wonder how that will affect sales. They will probably still do significantly better than gas-only counterparts.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2006 2:10 pm) Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Regardless of who gets hit the hardest, it hardly seems 'fair' that the government CAFE standards establish certain MPG milestones for the manufacturers to hit.....and then the government changes the way MPG is measured midstream. I'm surprised Ford/GM/DC aren't all screaming bloody murder...
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Replying to: rorr (Jan 12, 2006 2:42 pm) I think they should have the right to make their own test realistic. And it will certainly serve consumers better. With the gas prices spiking all over the place, it would be nice if you could make some reasonable calculation of what gas was going to cost you in a new vehicle before you committed to the purchase.
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This change will reverberate through the auto and government arenas, because a LOT of legislation and rules are in effect based on MPG. *ALL* of that legislation and all the rules will have to be modified for this change, because car companies will not be penalized all of a sudden after the 2008 model year tests for MPG that the new test "cheats" them out of. |
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