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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

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#9779 of 9847 Re: new Fit [nippononly] by ateixeira

Oct 23, 2012 (11:51 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Oct 18, 2012 11:13 pm)
Interestingly, Fit is not seen as just a B-segment competitor in Brazil. It's called a "monovolume" there, in other words a very small minivan. They position it to compete with the Meriva, not the Corsa/Celta.
 
It's price position here is much lower in comparison.

#9780 of 9847 Re: new Fit [ateixeira] by alltorque

Oct 23, 2012 (1:55 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 23, 2012 11:51 am)
Honda Jazz, (Fit to you guys), is certainly a Meriva competitor here in Europe and certainly far roomier than any Corsa..............assuming Corsas are the same both sides of the pond, of course.
 
My wife's '06 Jazz continues to just get on with life. No drama, no surprises and is the car of choice vs my S60 if we are a party of 5x adults. Rear leg-room is tons better and the higher, more upright seating makes 5-up a breeze compared to the leather-clad Swede. Of course, it's the good old 1334cc 3-pot with 75bhp so sure isn't a fireball but it does do what it says on the tin and that buys a lot of forgiveness. A 2.0 Vtec would be a blast but I suspect we'll see a Bugatti TDi before that appears.

#9781 of 9847 make sure they get 40 mpg by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Oct 24, 2012 (12:41 pm)

Fiat USA re-engineered non-turbo engines to hit that psychological barrier, since some larger cars get 40mpg.
 
"Architect Scott Kula used to ride a Vespa scooter to catch a train from Montclair, N.J. to his office in Manhattan. Now, he drives a Fiat 500 for the first leg of his commute.
 
"It's my Vespa with four wheels," says Mr. Kula, 49, who works designing stores for Coach International, the luxury goods company.
 
The number of cars under 160 inches long offered in the U.S. has grown to 13 models from nine since 2009."
 
Dinky, Yes, But Don't Call Them Cheap (WSJ)

#9782 of 9847 Re: new Fit [alltorque] by ateixeira

Oct 25, 2012 (11:52 am)

Replying to: alltorque (Oct 23, 2012 1:55 pm)
Mom's previous one was also a 1.3l. I think her latest one is a 1.5l.
 
Her sons helped her pay for them.

#9783 of 9847 Microcar Comparison by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Jan 11, 2013 (2:10 pm)


 
Finding the Best Teeny Car

#9784 of 9847 Re: Microcar Comparison [steve_] by ateixeira

Jan 11, 2013 (2:30 pm)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Jan 11, 2013 2:10 pm)
I'd like to see a Spark SS, even with just a slight bump in output.
 
I'd pick 500, Spark, iQ, and walking, in that order.

#9785 of 9847 still waiting by nippononly

Jan 12, 2013 (10:46 am)

for them to offer a manual in the iQ, would make it my choice. I think I will be waiting a long long time though (read: never).
 
Almost bought a 500, but hated the fact that the only way that car is acceptable to drive is if you press the "Sport" button every time you drive it - you can't program it to default to Sport. It truly is a stylish little bugger. I bet the Abarth is a hoot, but then you are spending enough money where a Cooper S begins to be in reach, and I would go with the Mini.

#9786 of 9847 Re: still waiting [nippononly] by ateixeira

Jan 12, 2013 (3:20 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2013 10:46 am)
Is it me or does the 500 feel a little tinny? Base models are cheap, but Abarths can get up there.

#9787 of 9847 Re: still waiting [ateixeira] by nippononly

Jan 13, 2013 (1:28 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 12, 2013 3:20 pm)
I only drove a Sport, but it didn't feel particularly tinny. I imagine all the really little cars feel a bit unsubstantial if you are used to bigger cars, but the super low weight also makes them a lot more fun to drive.

#9788 of 9847 Re: still waiting [nippononly] by ateixeira

Jan 13, 2013 (9:04 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Jan 13, 2013 1:28 am)
For mid teens price, no complaints. Once you hit $20k I'd be looking at more substantial cars.

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