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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

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#9733 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [nippononly] by hpmctorque

Sep 05, 2012 (9:04 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Sep 05, 2012 8:08 pm)
Mazda 2, Scion xD.

#9734 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [hpmctorque] by nippononly

Sep 05, 2012 (9:46 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 05, 2012 9:04 pm)
Well, I was thinking of VOLUME automakers, but sure throw in the '2' and the xD. Even MORE of an argument for VW to bring their well-thought-of Polo to the U.S.....

#9735 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [nippononly] by hpmctorque

Sep 06, 2012 (8:19 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Sep 05, 2012 9:46 pm)
I agree that it's puzzling why VW hasn't brought the Polo to the U.S., especially since its goal is to become the world's largest automaker.

#9736 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [hpmctorque] by michaell

Sep 06, 2012 (8:48 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 06, 2012 8:19 am)
I agree that it's puzzling why VW hasn't brought the Polo to the U.S., especially since its goal is to become the world's largest automaker.
 
Might it have something to do with the costs involved in certifying the Polo in the US?
 
How many units do you think VW can sell here in the States? Could they offer it at a price point under the Golf or Jetta S ($16K)?

#9737 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [nippononly] by bpizzuti

Sep 06, 2012 (8:58 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Sep 05, 2012 8:08 pm)
In fact,, I think they may officially be THE last...Versa, Yaris, Fit, Accent, Rio, Sonic, Spark, Fiesta, Fiat 500, VW ????
  
Who did I forget?
 
Subie, Volvo, Audi, none of these have subcompacts. Mazda is about to give up on the Mazda2 in the US (it was doomed anyway with the Mazda3 beating it in MPGs and all).

#9738 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [michaell] by hpmctorque

Sep 06, 2012 (12:16 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Sep 06, 2012 8:48 am)
Any of the cost factors you mentioned is possible, but how and why do the other companies manage to sell their B class cars in the U.S.?

#9739 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [hpmctorque] by ateixeira

Sep 06, 2012 (12:35 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 06, 2012 12:16 pm)
Build in a cheap place, like Mexico.
 
With a smaller car margins are crucial, in fact I bet most lose money.

#9740 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [ateixeira] by hpmctorque

Sep 06, 2012 (1:41 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 06, 2012 12:35 pm)
I think the Polo is already built in Mexico.

#9741 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [bpizzuti] by nippononly

Sep 06, 2012 (11:50 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Sep 06, 2012 8:58 am)
Subie, Volvo, Audi, none of these have subcompacts
 
Well like I said before, I was actually thinking of volume automakers when I first made the comment, and none of these are volume automakers. In fact, Mazda isn't either, but the 2 is a fun little car. If they are really thinking of dropping it, that's too bad....
 
VW could sell the Polo under the base price of a Jetta, I bet. It IS made in Mexico....

#9742 of 9847 Re: looks like Fiat [nippononly] by ateixeira

Sep 07, 2012 (8:48 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Sep 06, 2012 11:50 pm)
Probably not that much cheaper, maybe just a grand or so.
 
Plus, why lower transactions costs? It might cannibalize Golf sales.
 
I'm speculating. It would actually be fun to sample a Polo GTI.

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