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#8737 of 9838 Didja' notice? by nippononly

Dec 21, 2009 (8:24 pm)

Ford announced the prices for the 2011 Fiesta:

Ford bets customers will pay premium prices for the Fiesta

Ford Motor Co. will charge more than $23,000 for a fully loaded Fiesta, a new car smaller than the Focus.

..."The price is out there, and we already have 1,000 orders," said Jim Farley, Ford's group vice president of global marketing. "Americans have shown us if we bring out aspirational products, not only will they pay the base price, but go up."

The 2011 Fiesta, which goes on sale in summer, starts at $13,995 including shipping for the four-door sedan. The base five-door Fiesta starts at $15,795. The Focus starts at $16,535 including shipping.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20091221/CARNEWS/912219994

I forget when they are going to dump the crap-ola current Focus for the one on the European platform - have they already done it? - but I am thinking the price will go up when they do.

In the meantime, if that $23K Fiesta is an RS with the luxury features offered in a Mini Cooper S, people might pay it. I would be hoping for an RS a little closer to the $20K price point, but then I have no desire for xenon headlights and in-dash NAV.

On the flip side, I bet that $14K base sedan will be pretty well stripped down, and that's a shame.

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explorerx4 (Dec 21, 2009 8:37 pm)
- nippononly (Dec 21, 2009 9:52 pm)
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#8738 of 9838 Re: Didja' notice? [nippononly] by explorerx4

Dec 21, 2009 (8:37 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Dec 21, 2009 8:24 pm)

the fiesta 's' has features like electric power steering, advancetrac stability control, and telescoping wheel, which are not available on the focus 's', which starts at about 16,200.
the fiesta has a wheel/tire package that can add just under 2k to the price.

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#8739 of 9838 Re: Didja' notice? [explorerx4] by nippononly

Dec 21, 2009 (9:52 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Dec 21, 2009 8:37 pm)

Well isn't THAT a fine how-do-you-do! All the more reason to get that new Focus in place and bump up the base price and base feature content. They need to start focusing hard on being profitable with their small car sales.