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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

8700 messages,  Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 7:41 PM

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Versa, Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, smart fortwo, MINI Cooper


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cliche pic? by steve_ HOST
Sep 04, 2009 (2:03 pm)
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Long-Term Test: 2008 Smart Fortwo Passion Coupe (Inside Line Wrap Up)
 
Upshot? Lousy resale but bulletproof. Except the parts that the Ford Explorer hit.
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Re: cliche pic? [steve_] by explorerx4
Sep 04, 2009 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 04, 2009 2:03 pm)

good hook, but resale was not the only lousy thing.
just scan the comments with the pictures on the right side of the screen.
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Re: cliche pic? [steve_] by tifighter
Sep 04, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 04, 2009 2:03 pm)

I've read a lot of the back and forth on the smart, but I think it has its place. I sort of think of it as a all weather scooter with airbags; shoot, the $/lb ratio probably is not that different than a Vespa. And I'd rather drive one of these in winds than a Vespa. Resale here in the bay area is very good. Its a second car for urban areas...either that's you or it isn't. But reading people's comments about how people that buy these things are morons...those people need to get a life. And no, I don't own one.
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Re: cliche pic? [steve_] by ateixeira
Sep 08, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 04, 2009 2:03 pm)

$9 grand back, that's it?
 
I'm surprised, to be honest. I'm not a fan, but I thought the newness would still make it an easy re-sell.
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Re: cliche pic? [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST
Sep 08, 2009 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 08, 2009 8:19 am)

Someone should teach those guys how to buy and sell cars.
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Re: cliche pic? [steve_] by ateixeira
Sep 08, 2009 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 08, 2009 8:54 am)


 
I'm glad you said it, not me.
 
I'd park it next to the high school graduation ceremony and look for emotional dads looking for gifts for grads.
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fit vs fiesta by georgiemabel
Sep 13, 2009 (9:30 pm)
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well, i own an '07 fit and i just test drove a ford fiesta at one of the fiestamovement events in seattle. all i can say is, if they would have let me trade the fit in for the fiesta that day i probably would have done it. even with the smaller cargo capacity. The fiesta is a WAY more comfortable car that has a WAY better ride that really balances comfort and sport - with a WAY more upscale looking and feeling interior - really, if the cargo capacity was the same, there would be NOTHING in the fit's favor in my opinion.
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Re: fit vs fiesta [georgiemabel] by nippononly
Sep 14, 2009 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: georgiemabel (Sep 13, 2009 9:30 pm)

It makes me wonder if they will manage to stay price-competitive with the Fit. If the Fiesta cost $2000 more than the Fit, would you still go with the Fit, or is the Fiesta THAT much better?
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Re: fit vs fiesta [georgiemabel] by ateixeira
Sep 14, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: georgiemabel (Sep 13, 2009 9:30 pm)

That's very encouraging to hear.
 
Can Ford finally deliver a best-in-class small car?
 
Makes people forget the Pinto and Escort.
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I think the new Ford Fiesta... by iluvmysephia1
Sep 14, 2009 (9:01 am)
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ia a large step up above the old Pinto, Fiesta and Escort. A more sophisticated suspension, better interior, better exterior design and hopefully better electronics to go along with the rest. It should be a much more comfortable subcompact than the Escort and Focus. I see Ford selling shiploads of these new Fiesta's.

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