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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [steve_]
by bpizzuti
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Aug 05, 2009 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 05, 2009 5:44 am)
That is a bit surprising but only a bit: they weren't plastering themselves all over the airwaves like some others (Toyota, Hyundai, Dodge, Ford...etc). I think that particular corporate attitude and their relatively high pricing came back to bite them this time.
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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [bpizzuti]
by steve_ HOST
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Aug 05, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Aug 05, 2009 6:01 am)
I think Honda also dropped most incentives last month (or even in June) since they didn't have much inventory in the pipeline anyway.
Some of y'all may want to drop in on this Edmunds Answers question from someone comparing the Suzuki SX4, Nissan Cube, VW Rabbit and Toyota Yaris.
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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [steve_]
by bpizzuti
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Aug 05, 2009 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 05, 2009 6:14 am)
The Cube isn't a subcompact. Come to think of it, neither is the Versa. Too much room inside those things, heh. I was "this" close to getting one of those but I ended up liking the Elantra Touring too much.
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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [bpizzuti]
by tifighter
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Aug 05, 2009 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Aug 05, 2009 2:27 am)
Interesting, although I don't think the Aveo has EVER rated better than the Yaris at much of anything.
And no, I am not a Yaris fanboy.
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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [tifighter]
by bpizzuti
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Aug 05, 2009 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: tifighter (Aug 05, 2009 6:57 am)
Consumer Reports thinks the Aveo is better than the Yaris. For that to happen, the Yaris has to be a real dog. 
Mind you i don't like the Aveo either...I think the Accent and Versa are the pinnacle of subcompact-ness.
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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [bpizzuti]
by ateixeira
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Aug 05, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Aug 05, 2009 2:27 am)
Besides, NO ONE takes GM and the Aveo/Cobalt seriously
I'm not fan of the Aveo, but that's pretty brutal.
Isn't the Aveo the best seller in the subcompact segment?
Sales aren't everything, but surely they mean something.
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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [ateixeira]
by bpizzuti
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Aug 05, 2009 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 05, 2009 8:35 am)
Depends on how much they're selling them for and if they're making a profit, or just taking whatever they can get just to get them off of the lot. GM has a habit of doing that too.
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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [bpizzuti]
by ateixeira
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Aug 05, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Aug 05, 2009 9:09 am)
That kind of volume brings economies of scale.
Plus they're built in Korea for probably not a whole lot of $$$.
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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [ateixeira]
by tifighter
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Aug 05, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 05, 2009 9:12 am)
You guys see the Top Gear segment a few weeks ago where they drive the Daewoo branded version of the Aveo? Not pretty...
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Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [ateixeira]
by bpizzuti
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Aug 05, 2009 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 05, 2009 9:12 am)
Economies of scale still don't help if you're not selling them for enough. GM has never EVER made money off of anything smaller than a midsize. EVER. Sales or not.
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