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#8449 of 9848 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control?
Jul 28, 2009 (3:34 am)
According to the September issue of Motor Trend magazine the 2010 Yaris will gain traction/electronic stability control as standard equipment. This is great, if it's true. I see nothing about this "gain" anywhere online with what little research I've done. Can anyone in the know out there confirm this? At times I doubt MT is really on the beam, so to speak. I do know that upper level versions of Nissan's '10 Versa and Sentra get stab/esc. I'm surprised Toyota didn't include these safety features in the first place with the Yaris.
Please inform. I'd really appreciate it.
#8450 of 9848 Re: Euro Crash Test Dummies [steve_]
Jul 28, 2009 (5:27 am)
Wow, that Nano sure showed those styrofoam blocks and that home-made housetrailer front porch who's boss!
My biggest concern about something like that would not be so much how it does when hitting something, but how it does when it GETS hit. Running a Yaris at 40 mph into the rear-end of a stopped Suburban does NOT yield the same result as doing it the other way around.
#8451 of 9848 Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [aladdinsane]
Jul 28, 2009 (6:08 am)
Toyota hasn't been a big believer in lots of standard safety equipment until very recently. So it wasn't a big surprise that the first Yarises in '06 had none at all.
Standard ESC is going to be mandated in a very short time (2 years) anyway, so Toyota loses little by making it standard earlier, and gains the nice PR of it.
For '09 the Yaris got standard ABS and 6 airbags, so with the standard ESC for '10 it will be properly equipped for all the safety shoppers. Problem is it is still built in Japan and with the exchange rate at 95 yen to the dollar, we probably won't see too many in the States.
It would be nice to see Honda offer a proper subcompact again - the Fit is on the large side for that segment. I hope the CRZ is still in the works. And bring on the Polo, Fiesta, and Fiat 500!
#8452 of 9848 Re: Euro Crash Test Dummies [andre1969]
Jul 29, 2009 (7:34 am)
Perhaps, but remember at $2500 the Nano's competition is a nice pair of New Balance running shoes.
Of course the sneakers would go right under the Suburban and escape unscathed.
We should at least stick to the same price class, and look at how it fares compared to an Aveo or Versa, the two closest priced cars it would compete with.
#8453 of 9848 Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [aladdinsane]
Aug 04, 2009 (9:57 am)
Not only reported by motor trend. Click here
#8454 of 9848 Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [tifighter]
Aug 04, 2009 (3:05 pm)
Last I looked, the exchange rate was at 95 yen to the dollar. With the dollar so weak (and Yaris production located in Japan), I wonder how many 2010 Yarises Toyota will import this year?
#8455 of 9848 Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [nippononly]
Aug 04, 2009 (3:32 pm)
The Yaris is a world car; the US market just doesn't buy enough of these to justify US production, yet buys enough to annoy rival Honda. So Japan production it is. Interesting quote from a Car and Driver test (Click here) says "the [Yaris] has been at or near the top of the segment in sales since its debut."
Hmm...maybe Toyota can take over that Goldwing production line Honda just closed down
#8456 of 9848 Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [tifighter]
Aug 04, 2009 (8:41 pm)
A turd with traction control is still a turd.
#8457 of 9848 Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [plekto]
Aug 04, 2009 (10:12 pm)
That's a 40 mpg turd, for roughly 60% of the price of Honda's 40 mpg (Insight) turd. Not a bad thing, gas has just gone back above $3/gallon again in my area......
I would still love to see Honda take the competition more seriously with the Fit.
#8458 of 9848 Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [nippononly]
Aug 05, 2009 (2:27 am)
Honda doesn't take anyone seriously. That's why they charge so much for their cars.
So far, they can get away with it because most of the competition don't take themselves seriously. Toyota doesn't help by overpricing their cars either, but people are willing to pay it, it seems, even for the Yaris and Fit.
Besides, NO ONE takes GM and the Aveo/Cobalt seriously...I don't even think GM does yet. They've always had trouble taking that segment seriously, and while the Cruze might have fixed that a bit, it's been postponed indefinitely. While Focus, Elantra and Sentra (not even mentioning Civic and Corolla) walk all over the Cobalt. Aveo actually does a bit better competition wise than Cobalt (Doesn't stand up too bad with Accent and Versa, and tends to rate better than Yaris) does but it's still not there yet, and Fiesta is going to rip it to shreds next year.