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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

8564 messages,  Last post on Oct 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Versa, Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, smart fortwo, MINI Cooper

#8443 of 8564 Re: small, efficient.... [steve_] by ateixeira May 26, 2009 (6:28 am)
Replying to: steve_ (May 25, 2009 10:56 am) If he did drive under a Hummer, he'd have a convertible, and then there would at least be enough head room!
#8444 of 8564 I can't find much wrong with.. by iluvmysephia1 Jun 24, 2009 (8:18 pm)
this little Baskerville.   Kia No.3   Today I found out the No.3 will come with a standard 6-speed manual tranny. This little subcompact would be a good one to make a return to the manual transmission with. I'd get the colors pictured on this No.3, too.   There's only one small problem, carnuts. The No.3's not coming to the U.S. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jun 25, 2009 9:31 am) plekto (Jun 25, 2009 10:48 am)
#8445 of 8564 Re: I can't find much wrong with.. [iluvmysephia1] by ateixeira Jun 25, 2009 (9:31 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jun 24, 2009 8:18 pm) It's hard to tell the scale...is that Yaris sized, or smaller?   Sure beats the Korean-made Aveo5. Replies to this message: plekto (Jun 25, 2009 10:48 am)
#8446 of 8564 Re: I can't find much wrong with.. [ateixeira] by plekto Jun 25, 2009 (10:48 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 25, 2009 9:31 am) Its Yaris sized. Has a TDI engine in it, which is why it won't be for sale in the U.S.   It should get 46mpg or so, converting a similar sized TDI engine in another KIA/Hyundai in the U.K., to U.S. gallons.
#8447 of 8564 Euro Crash Test Dummies by steve_ HOST Jul 15, 2009 (5:37 pm)
Crash Test Video: Tata Nano (Straightline)   Doesn't look too bad, all things considered. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 27, 2009 10:28 am) andre1969 (Jul 28, 2009 5:27 am) ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:34 am)
#8448 of 8564 Re: Euro Crash Test Dummies [steve_] by ateixeira Jul 27, 2009 (10:28 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jul 15, 2009 5:37 pm) Seemed to do well IMHO also. I'd like to see more data and a better camera angle while we're asking for more.
#8449 of 8564 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? by aladdinsane Jul 28, 2009 (3:34 am)
Howdy all... According to the September issue of Motor Trend magazine the 2010 Yaris will gain traction/electronic stability control as standard equipment. This is great, if it's true. I see nothing about this "gain" anywhere online with what little research I've done. Can anyone in the know out there confirm this? At times I doubt MT is really on the beam, so to speak. I do know that upper level versions of Nissan's '10 Versa and Sentra get stab/esc. I'm surprised Toyota didn't include these safety features in the first place with the Yaris. Please inform. I'd really appreciate it. Many thanx... Peace!<-AladdinSane<- Replies to this message: nippononly (Jul 28, 2009 6:08 am) tifighter (Aug 04, 2009 9:57 am) nippononly (Aug 04, 2009 3:05 pm) tifighter (Aug 04, 2009 3:32 pm) plekto (Aug 04, 2009 8:41 pm) nippononly (Aug 04, 2009 10:12 pm) and 16 more...
#8450 of 8564 Re: Euro Crash Test Dummies [steve_] by andre1969 Jul 28, 2009 (5:27 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jul 15, 2009 5:37 pm) Wow, that Nano sure showed those styrofoam blocks and that home-made housetrailer front porch who's boss!   My biggest concern about something like that would not be so much how it does when hitting something, but how it does when it GETS hit. Running a Yaris at 40 mph into the rear-end of a stopped Suburban does NOT yield the same result as doing it the other way around. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:34 am)
#8451 of 8564 Re: 2010 Yaris gets traction/electronic stability control? [aladdinsane] by nippononly Jul 28, 2009 (6:08 am)
Replying to: aladdinsane (Jul 28, 2009 3:34 am) Toyota hasn't been a big believer in lots of standard safety equipment until very recently. So it wasn't a big surprise that the first Yarises in '06 had none at all.   Standard ESC is going to be mandated in a very short time (2 years) anyway, so Toyota loses little by making it standard earlier, and gains the nice PR of it.   For '09 the Yaris got standard ABS and 6 airbags, so with the standard ESC for '10 it will be properly equipped for all the safety shoppers. Problem is it is still built in Japan and with the exchange rate at 95 yen to the dollar, we probably won't see too many in the States.   It would be nice to see Honda offer a proper subcompact again - the Fit is on the large side for that segment. I hope the CRZ is still in the works. And bring on the Polo, Fiesta, and Fiat 500!
#8452 of 8564 Re: Euro Crash Test Dummies [andre1969] by ateixeira Jul 29, 2009 (7:34 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 28, 2009 5:27 am) Perhaps, but remember at $2500 the Nano's competition is a nice pair of New Balance running shoes.   Of course the sneakers would go right under the Suburban and escape unscathed.   We should at least stick to the same price class, and look at how it fares compared to an Aveo or Versa, the two closest priced cars it would compete with.

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