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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

8685 messages,  Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 5:05 AM

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Versa, Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, smart fortwo, MINI Cooper


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Re: Is slow the new black? [andre1969] by ateixeira
May 21, 2009 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 21, 2009 5:54 am)

Should be fine for a city car, where 0-40 is all that matters, just to get out of people's way.
 
Where it would feel slow would be passing on the highway, 50-70 maybe, though hopefully the owner isn't driving often on those kinds of roads.
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Re: Is slow the new black? [thegraduate] by explorerx4
May 21, 2009 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 20, 2009 8:02 pm)

i work across the river, about a mile as the crow flies, from a 'smart' dealer.
maybe i have seen 4 or 5, ever.
last weekend i saw one for sale up in litchfield.
it was sitting in the yard with grass growing around it, like many other cars that have been waiting for a buyer for a while.
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Re: Is slow the new black? [ateixeira] by nippononly
May 21, 2009 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 21, 2009 10:46 am)

Headed to LA with some friends last weekend in their Sienna, there we were, cruising along around 75 mph, got passed by a Smart car! And it was way out in the middle of nowhere too, it was clearly someone making the trek from SF to LA like us.
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Re: Is slow the new black? [nippononly] by thegraduate
May 21, 2009 (8:45 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 21, 2009 8:40 pm)

The only time I ever see Smarts on the road are on I-65, typically traveling 65+ mph. When my 130hp '96 Accord is working hard climbing Shades Mountain in Birmingham, AL, I wonder how the little Smart is making it.
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Re: Is slow the new black? [thegraduate] by ateixeira
May 22, 2009 (5:56 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 21, 2009 8:45 pm)

I saw one today on my way in. I was in my Miata, top down, enjoying the drive.
 
I can't help but think - why would you get a Smart when leftover 08 Miatas have a $5000 incentive tied to them right now? I doubt I paid significantly more than that Smart owner did.
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Re: Is slow the new black? [thegraduate] by igozoomzoom
May 22, 2009 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 21, 2009 8:45 pm)

I live about an hour north of Atlanta in a small college town. There are a few kids at the college who drive a Smart and I hate getting stuck behind them. It's very hilly in this area and they drop down to 40-45 going up one of the bigger hills, despite the 55mph limit. It's happened twice so far! Thankfully, there's a spot to make a quick pass just before and after that hill...and I can get around them without even taking my Mazda3 out of 5th gear.
 
The Smart makes a great city car- tiny, easy to park in tight spaces, adequate power for in-town driving. But if you routinely drive on highways/interstates or any long distances, the Nissan Versa would be cheaper to buy, a lot faster and more comfortable and gets 34mpg highway.
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Re: Air conditioning PROBLEMS -- LAWSUIT [Bill2009] by thegraduate
May 24, 2009 (3:03 pm)
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With three Hondas in my driveway, dating from 1996 to 2006, and a 2007 in my parents possession, I can say honestly I've never heard of any A/C issues, other than a few complaints about rocks hitting the condensers and making holes in them, destroying them.
 
No representation is made that the quality of air conditioning services provided by vehicles produced by Honda of America is better than that of air conditioning services provided by alternate automobile manufacturers.
 
Paid shills? Please... I see you're a relatively new poster here. Just a friendly heads-up to ya... hosts will remove posts with personal attacks.
 
Happy Hon...I mean Motoring.
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Re: Air conditioning PROBLEMS -- LAWSUIT [Bill2009] by steve_ HOST
May 24, 2009 (3:15 pm)
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This isn't the Honda AC problems discussion. That would be the Honda CR-V AC Compressor Issues discussion.
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small, efficient.... by steve_ HOST
May 24, 2009 (10:27 pm)
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Goes 40mph, and gets 70 miles per gallon. And it's street legal.
 
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