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Re: Nissan Cube [benjaminh] by ateixeira
May 18, 2009 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: benjaminh (May 16, 2009 11:54 am)

They are definitely interesting cars, but remember that the basic Versa they are based on starts at $9995 or something like that. I'm sure you get more content, but it's a pretty basic platform.
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [nortsr1] by alltorque
May 18, 2009 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: nortsr1 (May 18, 2009 7:14 am)

Abject apologies................for ranting on about the Fiesta and missing the point of your comment being the TATA. Not sure that I class the TATA as particularly inherently safe in anything other than high density city traffic or low-speed urban environments. I certainly wouldn't want to put my faith in one in full-blown high-density/high-speed environments; particularly when there are more proven vehicles available. Maybe it will "prove" out O.K. but I'll reserve judgement until some data becomes available.
 
So, in answer to your question : no, I'm not.
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [alltorque] by ateixeira
May 18, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: alltorque (May 18, 2009 11:57 am)

Remember, you have to compare the safety of the Tata Nano to the scooter/bicycle/donkey it competes against, and so relatively speaking it is a very safe vehicle at its price point.
 
Don't donkeys bite?
 
For $2500 you have a different set of rules, and competition.
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [ateixeira] by nortsr1
May 18, 2009 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 18, 2009 12:24 pm)

Yes, it does run with a different set of rules;however, our set of strict safety rules would hike the cost of that TATA to a considerably higher price point. Perhaps it would be suitable to replace golf carts in all those new "Senior Devlopments".
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We've got old men poking around... by iluvmysephia1
May 18, 2009 (1:13 pm)
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in golf carts legally in this dinky SE Arizona town my wife and I live in. Little electric golf carts. The Nano would fit right in, might me a better and safer choice for these guys to peddle around in. One guy pokes up to the Nursing Home attached to the hospital my wife and I work in in one of these carts. Visits his wife who is in the Nursing home, every day. Lives like we all do, about a half mile from the hospital and nursing home!
 
The Tata Nano could make it here for one. I'd feel safer in a Nano than a real golf cart, though they've really got some strong similarities.
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i tried to... by explorerx4
May 18, 2009 (3:33 pm)
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get my one of my kids to work with me on making a video to lobby for one of the 100 fiesta's being lent out for 6 months for evaluation.
after looking at some of the video's, she is probably too young, anyway.
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Re: i tried to... [explorerx4] by lilengineerboy
May 18, 2009 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (May 18, 2009 3:33 pm)

Fiesta Movement
 
For those not in the know...
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [ateixeira] by igozoomzoom
May 18, 2009 (10:46 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 18, 2009 12:24 pm)

And donkeys poop, that's a selling feature for the Tata Nano (no solid emissions)!
 
I wonder how it would hold up in a crash with a donkey? I once saw a Chevette that had hit a deer- wasn't pretty! Donkeys are bigger/heavier than deer...
 
I think they'll sell every one they can build just in India alone...and maybe China. It's obviously a car for "emerging markets" (Third World countries that are quickly becoming industrialized). Could you imagine merging into a U.S. highway with a 35hp 2-cylinder engine?
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [igozoomzoom] by nippononly
May 19, 2009 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (May 18, 2009 10:46 pm)

Could you imagine merging onto a U.S. highway with a 1.4L engine making 90+ hp? In a car weighing 1800 pounds? Because that's the option you will get, not the 2-cylinder version from India.
 
It will be very interesting if Tata brings this one to the U.S. A new car for $5000? I wonder what the warranty will be like.
 
The CEO of Tata called the U.S. market "unforgiving" and it is clear he is still not totally sold on bringing the thing here at all.
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [ateixeira] by andre1969
May 19, 2009 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 18, 2009 12:24 pm)

Don't donkeys bite?
 
Dunno about biting, but they have a pretty mean kick, so that should discourage tailgaters. Only problem is, they tend to rise up when they kick, which could result in the "driver" being thrown, unless belted in/on properly.

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