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Re: VW Golf and Polo [igozoomzoom] by ateixeira
Apr 30, 2009 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Apr 29, 2009 3:22 pm)

Allow me to clarify my earlier point - the current Polo is made in Europe (I think?), and what I said was VW could not sell it here any cheaper than the $15995 they want for the Rabbit now.
 
Moving production to Mexico and moving the Golf upscale would change that scenario. I think both of those things would have to happen first.
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Re: I don't see... [fintail] by ateixeira
Apr 30, 2009 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Apr 30, 2009 6:17 am)

At the price it competes with 2 wheeled scooters, not EVs.
 
I doubt it would succeed here, but there will be more demand than supply when you account for 2 billions plus people in India and China alone - half the world's population basically.
 
Who cares about a shrinking and way-too-competitive US market?
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ateixeira by nippononly
Apr 30, 2009 (8:33 am)
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I believe that Tata will bring the Nano Europa to the U.S. as well, to maximize the profits they can draw from investing in the upgrades for the European market. And I know it's a super-basic car, but you know what? I think there will always be a market for a $5000 brand new car with a standard-length new-car warranty. In fact, I think it could be a hit. It will be the Yugo of the 2010s! Only it should have much better reliability than that piece of junk did. Tata is a pretty experienced carmaker after all.
 
Now, will Tata care if it makes it in the U.S.? As you say, probably not, they have bigger fish to fry. In fact, we may see it withdrawn in short order if sales don't take off right away.
 
As for the VW comments, both of your prerogatives for Polo sales in the U.S. have already been announced by VW: that it will move the Golf up some for the next round, and that the Polo will be sourced from Mexico.
 
I don't think they are going to offer a 2-door stripper trim of the Golf any more. It's interesting that they will cut that trim, as I think sales were pretty good, but I suppose people shopping that price range will consider a nicely equipped Polo instead in future. If the 2-door Golf started at a price $500 below that of the 4-door, I think both would sell plenty well, and allow some room for Polo to come in at a price $1000-3000 lower.
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Re: ateixeira [nippononly] by ateixeira
Apr 30, 2009 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 30, 2009 8:33 am)

If Tata is smart they will expand very carefully. Especially to the US - a very unforgiving market.
 
One false start and it could spoil even their future hopes of success here.
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Nissan Cube by benjaminh
May 16, 2009 (11:54 am)
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This car is goofy looking, but I like it. A lot of functionality for an affordable price. Starts at $14.5k, and it seems like a lot of car for the money. Anyone else like the cube? Seems like some love it and others hate it.
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how about the ford fiesta? by explorerx4
May 16, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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i'm thinking it could be a big hit. i think i want one.
the question is, what do i have to give up to get one.
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [explorerx4] by nortsr1
May 17, 2009 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (May 16, 2009 12:16 pm)

You have to give up a lot of SAFETY for one thing.
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [nortsr1] by alltorque
May 17, 2009 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: nortsr1 (May 17, 2009 5:39 am)

"You have to give up a lot of SAFETY for one thing."
 
Let's not go down the "Small cars are unsafe" route again. The Fiesta scores 4* on EuroNCAP testing, (5* = max), that's the same as the MINI, Honda Jazz (Fit) and Honda CR-V........and others. The current version of the Chrysler Grand Voyager isn't rated but, IIRC, the previous one scored very low - 2* or 3* - and was notorious for folding in all the wrong places during impact. Being "big" does not always equate to being "safe". Good structural design is the key.
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [alltorque] by lilengineerboy
May 17, 2009 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: alltorque (May 17, 2009 6:55 am)

I think it is important to have across the board availability of passive and active safety features. The Fit and Scions have ABS standard, and I believe stability control is coming in too. Having 27 inflatable balloons coming out of every crevice in the vehicle should a collision occur is also important.
Ford has been not as stellar in this arena in the past.
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Re: how about the ford fiesta? [alltorque] by nortsr1
May 18, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: alltorque (May 17, 2009 6:55 am)

Are you telling me the Tata" IS A SAFE CAR IN IT'S PRESENT FORM" to be driven "here in the U.S.A?????? We were talking about the TATA not the Ford Fiesta.

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