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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

8691 messages,  Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 1:39 PM

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Re: Soul console [snakeweasel] by thegraduate
Apr 27, 2009 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 27, 2009 2:03 pm)

I'll give you that, although that's the ONLY time you'll ever get away with comparing that Accent Sedan to a Carrera.
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Re: Soul console [thegraduate] by snakeweasel
Apr 27, 2009 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 27, 2009 6:41 pm)

It's the little icons that look like Sally Carrera, not the Accent.
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cheap and cheerful by steve_ HOST
Apr 27, 2009 (6:53 pm)
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Maybe we'll get something like the Up! after all.
 
"Volkswagen of America has confirmed for Inside Line that its New Small Family, a line of cheap and cheerful city cars, will be coming to the U.S.
 
"We're planning to offer the vehicle in the U.S.," said Volkswagen of America spokesman Steve Keyes in an e-mail to Inside Line. "However, which model[s] and name is not decided. You may recall that the concept was called Up!"
 
Volkswagen New Small Family Bound for U.S. Market (Inside Line)
 
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Re: cheap and cheerful [steve_] by ateixeira
Apr 28, 2009 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 27, 2009 6:53 pm)

That makes sense to me, because the Polo would just be priced way too close to the current Rabbit. Maybe a grand less, if that.
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Re: cheap and cheerful [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST
Apr 28, 2009 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 28, 2009 6:55 am)

With those side view mirrors, VW should call it the Shrek.
 
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Re: cheap and cheerful [steve_] by ateixeira
Apr 28, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 28, 2009 7:00 am)

Good one.
 
I think it might be easier to market than the Polo, though. Less overlap with the Rabbit. It would steal fewer sales and bring a different set of buyers to the brand.
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Re: cheap and cheerful [ateixeira] by nippononly
Apr 28, 2009 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 28, 2009 7:14 am)

Rabbit is going back to being called Golf, and heading upmarket though, isn't it? I would think there would be room for all three in the market - these microcars like Up! are popular, but only within a fairly narrow niche. They are mostly city cars. Polo could go head to head with something like Fit, with Golf priced higher if it is truly heading upmarket again as I have read.
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Re: cheap and cheerful [steve_] by qbrozen
Apr 28, 2009 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 27, 2009 6:53 pm)

bah. The UP has no appeal to me now that they nixed the rear-engine idea.
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Re: cheap and cheerful [nippononly] by ateixeira
Apr 29, 2009 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 28, 2009 7:32 am)

I guess so.
 
They definitely have to kill the $14,990 pricing on those bare-bones Rabbits, though.
 
Drop the base model entirely and have those start at $18k, then offer the Polo for $15k.
 
I'm still not convinced they'll do significantly more volume than the current Rabbit does now, though.
 
Bring that cool little super-turbo 1.4l engine and offer a model with that for $18k or so. Then they could earn the bang-for-the-buck crown. That could create a halo for other Polo models.
 
I still wonder if they can produce them cheaply enough. Maybe assemble them in Mexico.
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Re: cheap and cheerful [ateixeira] by kyfdx HOST
Apr 29, 2009 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 29, 2009 10:53 am)

I bet the Polo never happens for the US...

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