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Re: hmmm [boaz47]
by ateixeira
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Nov 05, 2008 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 05, 2008 1:04 pm)
True, but no A/C? That's bait-and-switch pricing. Under $10k ends up being $11-12k.
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Re: hmmm [ateixeira]
by boaz47
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Nov 05, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 05, 2008 1:02 pm)
I just filled up my neighbors S-10 blazer for her so she can leave for vacation Friday. $2.51 at AM/PM. I was so happy I almost went home to get my Tahoe but it is only down 1/4 tank. That is all the gas I used since October 22. But I did have to fill the Pontiac 4 banger at $2.63 the week before. I had been watching the papers to see if anyone was selling a small sub compact because of the economy but I think I can afford to wait till they come out with something better than what they are offering right now. If you can get a Compact or something even a bit bigger for 12-15K there is simply no reason to pay more than 9-10k for a sub compact. IMO
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Re: hmmm [boaz47]
by ateixeira
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Nov 05, 2008 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 05, 2008 1:11 pm)
I saw gas in Deleware for $2.09! Cash price only.
On the NJ turnpike it was $2.53. Up in CT it was $2.79. Ouch.
Huge variation by locale.
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Re: hmmm [ateixeira]
by texases
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Nov 05, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 05, 2008 1:15 pm)
$2.07 now in DFW...
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Re: hmmm [ateixeira]
by kyfdx HOST
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Nov 05, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 05, 2008 1:15 pm)
$1.97-$2.03 in the Cincinnati area on Monday.. 
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Re: hmmm [kyfdx]
by thegraduate
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Nov 05, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 05, 2008 1:19 pm)
$1.83 in Bartlesville, Oklahoma.
WOW.
For the record, Birmingham is averaging around $2.37 (per GasBuddy.com), which is actually ABOVE the national average. For as long as I can remember, gas here was always cheaper than average, until Hurricane Ike struck. It's actually $2.03 on the Gulf Coast of AL, where my parents live.
They couldn't be happier with their big V6 Taurus (avg 25 MPG) haha. They almost went with a Versa. Sure, prices will go back up, but hopefully not for a little while.
The Versa is still a big bargain at $11k.
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Re: hmmm [thegraduate]
by nippononly
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Nov 05, 2008 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 05, 2008 2:10 pm)
the interesting thing about the new base Versa is that they put in a smaller engine as part of making it cheaper. I would like to see this happen for all small models - the Fit/Jazz uses smaller engines in other parts of the world, so does the Aveo. And in the case of the Yaris Toyota appears to be getting ready to follow Nissan's lead, with a smaller engine among other changes designed to get cost down.
Me, I am all for it, as we might get a few cars with really superlative fuel economy again, without having to buy a hybrid to do better than 40 mpg....
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Re: hmmm [nippononly]
by thegraduate
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Nov 05, 2008 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 05, 2008 5:04 pm)
The Versa is rated for 26/34 in 1.6L form, which is lower than the heavier, more comfortable, and more powerful Toyota Corolla and Honda Civic. Also, you mention having the other brands use smaller engined models; well, the 1.6L Versa is a bigger engine than the TOP model of Fit and Yaris. Just a bit of info that may have been overlooked.
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Re: hmmm [thegraduate]
by nippononly
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Nov 05, 2008 (10:44 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 05, 2008 6:49 pm)
Oh yes certainly, the Versa is a poor example of what I was saying because its fuel economy is so utterly mediocre for a car its size. I was thinking that the Honda and the Toyota could have substantially better ratings than that - the Honda does much better on the European testing cycle with the smaller engine, and Toyota is aiming for a combined 40 mpg with the 1.3L Yaris, which would top everything powered only by gas today.
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Re: hmmm [nippononly]
by andre1969
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Nov 06, 2008 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 05, 2008 10:44 pm)
Actually the Versa doesn't seem TOO bad, if you get the 1.8/CVT. The EPA has it pegged at 27/33 (29 combined). The Corolla 1.8/4-speed auto is 27/35 (30 combined) and the Civic 1.8/5-speed auto is 25/36 (29 combined).
I guess if you do a lot of highway driving, the Corolla or Civic are better choices, but the Versa looks like a good choice for local driving. The EPA website doesn't list a 1.6 Versa, at least not that I can find, but they do show a 1.8/4speed auto rated at 24/32...not very impressive.
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