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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

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#8061 of 8678 Re: oh for PETE'S SAKE!! [nippononly] by boaz47 Sep 26, 2008 (1:17 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Sep 25, 2008 8:45 pm) I figured we had just about beat this forum to death and were waiting for some new sub compacts to talk about. As I came to thins post I thought we were in the future of the manual forum and I almost spit my coffee on the keyboard when I read your post.   Toyota has released the 5-door Yaris as an '09, and it will only come with an automatic!!!!   You predicted this yourself not that long ago. Replies to this message: nippononly (Sep 26, 2008 9:14 pm) boaz47 (Sep 27, 2008 8:05 am) nippononly (Sep 29, 2008 9:15 am) and 3 more...
#8062 of 8678 Re: oh for PETE'S SAKE!! [boaz47] by nippononly Sep 26, 2008 (9:14 pm)
Replying to: boaz47 (Sep 26, 2008 1:17 pm) Oh hell, boaz, I hate being right on something like this and I hate it even more when you point out I was right. Replies to this message: boaz47 (Sep 27, 2008 8:05 am) nippononly (Sep 29, 2008 9:15 am) boaz47 (Sep 29, 2008 11:52 am) and 2 more...
#8063 of 8678 If you don't have the automotive by iluvmysephia1 Sep 26, 2008 (9:17 pm)
eyes to see the intelligence of that Kia Soul design then you just don't...ummm...have it. I can't do anything for ya then, man. Just don't tell me ya drive something like a GMC pickup, so my stomach can remain in a settled state. Replies to this message: andre1969 (Sep 27, 2008 4:58 am) fintail (Sep 27, 2008 10:59 am)
#8064 of 8678 Re: If you don't have the automotive [iluvmysephia1] by andre1969 Sep 27, 2008 (4:58 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Sep 26, 2008 9:17 pm) Just don't tell me ya drive something like a GMC pickup, so my stomach can remain in a settled state.   Well not a GMC, but I do have a Chevy pickup. Actually, I don't think that Kia thing is horrible. But it's just sort of there. Doesn't do anything for me one way or another.
#8065 of 8678 andre... by iluvmysephia1 Sep 27, 2008 (5:37 am)
I'm just joshin' when I mention GMC, Ford, Chevy, etc. pickups make me want to barf. But my point is that I like a vehicle with some interesting lines to it. The Kia Soul has those lines, including a most-interesting headlamp cluster design. The rear end is most unique as well. It can slightly resemble a Mini at certain glances, but that's not the appeal to me with the Soul.   I don't see "beautiful" when I see the Kia Soul, but I do see cool and unique design, one that I would be happy to have.
#8066 of 8678 Re: oh for PETE'S SAKE!! [nippononly] by boaz47 Sep 27, 2008 (8:05 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Sep 26, 2008 9:14 pm) What I have always found interesting about you is you post part time what you believe and part time what you hope. When we look at the bean counters at the manufactures we see people who work off of surveys and trends. I have been on sites from some of the non automotive enthusiast asking for more Japanese small imports. Many, if not most, of these new small lighter fuel efficient vehicles come equipped with CVT. The new HR15DE 1.5 liter engine will be 30 percent lighter than what they are now producing and Nissan is talking about bringing it here but with a CVT only because, according to Nissan, the CVT will maximize average fuel mileage. Look at how many of the small sub 1000cc cars Japan has that are only offered in CVT.   It seems as if some of your predictions about increased small car production may be correct. But if you remember you also said you were worried about the simplicity of the CVT and that might be correct as well. Many have been asking for a small, easy to use, light weight economy car and the CVT adds a element of simplicity and light weight. Replies to this message: nippononly (Sep 29, 2008 9:15 am) boaz47 (Sep 29, 2008 11:52 am) nippononly (Sep 29, 2008 12:02 pm) and 1 more...
#8067 of 8678 GLOBAL SAFETY STANDARDS WILL CREATE CHOICES IN THE AUTO INDUSTRY. by autooracle Sep 27, 2008 (8:34 am)
There are so many makes and model's out in the world today that the U.S. is forbidden to allow. As emission and safety standards increase we need to push for other manufacturers to return to the states. Peugeot, Citroen, Alfa Romeo, Fiat. BMW offers the 1 series in a hatchback diesel obtaining upwards of 50 mpg. The Mercedes B Class is would be extremely useful... Prius? No thank you.......   Most of the manufacturers overseas have models obtaining over 45 mpg utilizing diesel a powertrain. With new low sulfur and biofuels, in combination with more efficient direct injection systems we need to fight for a change. As much as Americans forget about how much our politicians screw up our country....they still remember the soot blowing diesels of the 80's. . . .. I don't get it. . . . Replies to this message: lilengineerboy (Sep 27, 2008 8:38 am)
#8068 of 8678 Re: GLOBAL SAFETY STANDARDS WILL CREATE CHOICES IN THE AUTO INDUSTRY. [auto by lilengineerboy Sep 27, 2008 (8:38 am)
Replying to: autooracle (Sep 27, 2008 8:34 am) AMEN BROTHER
#8069 of 8678 Re: If you don't have the automotive [iluvmysephia1] by fintail Sep 27, 2008 (10:59 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Sep 26, 2008 9:17 pm) Soul design? When Kias are seen as a good piece of design in history books, then one can pine about their styling. Otherwise, it's more Asian-bland.
#8070 of 8678 Oh, here's my chance... by iluvmysephia1 Sep 27, 2008 (11:14 pm)
whenever I've praised Kia's for their looks I've been told that looks are subjective, that everyone has a nose and an opinion, that Kia's are bland, every excuse in the book but none that really address the factuality that Kia has always been more interested in superior, distinct styling.   Fact is, the Sephia blew away both the Civic and Corolla in styling.   The Sportage blows away the Honda CRV and the Toyota RAV4 in the styling department. The Kia Sorento and now the new Kia SUV, squarely pops any SUV it's size off the globe in the styling department.   The new Kia Forte is set to distinguish Kia as leader's once again in the compact size range.   And the Kia Soul crossover can't be beat for styling in the crossover segment.   The reality of it all is that Kia's future is so bright that they best be wearin' some strong Burton Cumming's shades. Just look and watch at the new Peter Schreyer-designed Kia models coming out in the next few years. These guys were already the best but they just keep gettin' betta and betta, brotha. Replies to this message: nortsr1 (Sep 28, 2008 4:06 am) fintail (Sep 28, 2008 8:22 am) thegraduate (Sep 28, 2008 11:52 am) andre1969 (Sep 28, 2008 12:16 pm)

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