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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

8698 messages,  Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 11:02 AM

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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [thegreatoz] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 05, 2008 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: thegreatoz (Sep 04, 2008 9:25 pm)

A phone call from your attorney and they still didn't give the money back? And, your attorney accepted that?
 
I'm not impressed with your attorney.. I'd call the local prosecutor... I wouldn't let anyone keep my money without due consideration.. I think they would be hard-pressed to show an actual loss from you backing out on the deal.
 
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kyfdx
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [kyfdx] by nortsr1
Sep 05, 2008 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 05, 2008 7:21 am)

Why would they have to show a LOSS??? If he signed an agreement that states "Non-refundable deposit" it is his LOSS.. not theirs. What type of complaint could a local prosecutor do???? People order cars, put down a deposit (in his case $500.00). He agrees to a NON refundable deposit and then he changes his mind!!!! Forget it!!!!!He loses that $$$$.
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real nice review by nippononly
Sep 05, 2008 (11:21 am)
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for the new Fiesta:
 
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080905/FREE/809059991/1528/- newsletter01
 
Why is this car still two years away in the United States?
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [nortsr1] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 05, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: nortsr1 (Sep 05, 2008 10:50 am)

It won't stand up... if there is no consideration on both parts, then there is no contract...
 
If the contract isn't fulfilled, then they would have to show damages to keep the money..
 
In the car business, there are no non-refundable deposits.. no matter what he signed... If they keep his money, they have to show that he got something for it, or they had a loss.. I don't think they can do that on a Honda FIT, that sells as soon as it hits the lot..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [thegreatoz] by ateixeira
Sep 05, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: thegreatoz (Sep 04, 2008 9:25 pm)

That's crazy, you're a loyal Honda buyer and they actually kept your deposit?
 
Sheesh. How would they treat Joe Schmoe.
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Re: real nice review [nippononly] by fintail
Sep 05, 2008 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 05, 2008 11:21 am)

They are still working on decontenting it to a level suitable for the NA market
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Re: real nice review [fintail] by lilengineerboy
Sep 05, 2008 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Sep 05, 2008 1:09 pm)

They are still working on decontenting it to a level suitable for the NA market
 
I bet if you found a bunch of people willing to pay $28,000 for it like they do in the EU, you might be able to convince them to bring it over. Of course you will still need it to pass the North American FMVSS requirements and safety requirements...
 
Hmm yeah, there is a car in Europe and all Ford has to do is just drop it off here in the states and make a killing...those slick folks in Dearborn must not have thought of trying that....
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Re: real nice review [lilengineerboy] by fintail
Sep 05, 2008 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Sep 05, 2008 5:06 pm)

But a fair bit of that 28K exists because of insane taxes in the EU region, and the depreciated greenback. Compare the home market prices with local purchasing power and relative to other vehicles offered in a given market, and it isn't so bad. It might not be something that would sticker for 10K, but there are people who will pay for a premium product.
 
Given the actions of the big 2.5 over the past few decades, there are a lot of folks in Detroit who are as slick as sandpaper
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now now by nippononly
Sep 05, 2008 (10:25 pm)
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no bickering! According to the article, these cars are "Priced from the equivalent of $11,000" in Europe. They aren't going for any $28K.
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [kyfdx] by nortsr1
Sep 06, 2008 (4:27 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 05, 2008 11:28 am)

"in the car business there are NO non-refundable deposits"....I would like a car salesperson to chime in on this...Has any dealer ever kept a deposit... I certainly can remember some posts that I have read where the deposit has been kept by the dealer (however, I don't remember where I read it)!!!!!

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