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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

8684 messages,  Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 9:12 PM

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Versa, Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, smart fortwo, MINI Cooper


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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [thegraduate] by nippononly
Sep 04, 2008 (9:04 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 04, 2008 8:59 pm)

So they have arrived at your local dealer? I heard they would be a month early - guess that was true....
 
My local dealer sold his last '08 Fit ages ago. I imagine they must have been impatient to get the '09s in.
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [nippononly] by thegraduate
Sep 04, 2008 (9:12 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 04, 2008 9:04 pm)

They had but one 2009; when we got in it it had 5 miles on it. They were ready to deal if we were, but we only drove it out of curiousity. I guess it wasn't just a demo. The sticker was $17,5XX or so, with an extra $299 for the Xylon treatment tacked on. Cute car, but not worth that to me. I'd have a Versa that's better equipped, or better yet, something like a midsize Ford or Hyundai. I'm 6'5", so interior room is worth a premium to me.
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [thegraduate] by thegreatoz
Sep 04, 2008 (9:25 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 04, 2008 8:59 pm)

I had money down on my dealer's next '09 FIT and after today's test drive, I decided not to trade in my Civic EX ('06 12,550 miles). The engine was peppy from 0-25, but was noisy and whiny up to 55. Handling was a little jittery at 55 also.
 
My primary turn-off was the "fuzzy cardboard" for the seatbacks and cargo floor. It's certainly not up to supporting heavy loads or rough wear & tear. The dashboard and doors were as nice as the Civic in quality, however. The cloth seats were a little lower quality than the Civic.
 
All in all, for $19g (Sport/AT/Navi) you don't get the ride and engine and quiet you can in a Civic...for just a couple of more g's...and equally decent gas mileage.
 
I was hoping to downsize and get sporty with the FIT, but IMHO it's no competition for the Civic. Had it been a Blackberry Pearl instead of a Storm Silver, I might have been persuaded to think about it more.
 
By the way, this Honda dealer keeps the $500 deposit if you don't follow through with the deal. Is that common practice? A phone call from my attorney resulted in "keeping the $500 in escrow for use on a future deal."
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [thegreatoz] by badself
Sep 05, 2008 (4:13 am)
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Replying to: thegreatoz (Sep 04, 2008 9:25 pm)

You got screwed by not setting the terms of your deposit up front, and obviously by not reading the fine print the dealer locked you into.
 
The practice is deplorable, but unfortunately, you put yourself there, and with little or no bargaining power now that the dealer has your cash and little incentive to discount.
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [badself] by thegreatoz
Sep 05, 2008 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: badself (Sep 05, 2008 4:13 am)

Yup...too enthusiastic over the FIT.
 
If the FIT is so scarce, especially certain colors, there's no dealer incentive to discount, even if I weren't the village idiot.
 
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [thegreatoz] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 05, 2008 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: thegreatoz (Sep 04, 2008 9:25 pm)

A phone call from your attorney and they still didn't give the money back? And, your attorney accepted that?
 
I'm not impressed with your attorney.. I'd call the local prosecutor... I wouldn't let anyone keep my money without due consideration.. I think they would be hard-pressed to show an actual loss from you backing out on the deal.
 
regards,
kyfdx
visiting host-not a lawyer
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [kyfdx] by nortsr1
Sep 05, 2008 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 05, 2008 7:21 am)

Why would they have to show a LOSS??? If he signed an agreement that states "Non-refundable deposit" it is his LOSS.. not theirs. What type of complaint could a local prosecutor do???? People order cars, put down a deposit (in his case $500.00). He agrees to a NON refundable deposit and then he changes his mind!!!! Forget it!!!!!He loses that $$$$.
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real nice review by nippononly
Sep 05, 2008 (11:21 am)
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for the new Fiesta:
 
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080905/FREE/809059991/1528/- newsletter01
 
Why is this car still two years away in the United States?
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [nortsr1] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 05, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: nortsr1 (Sep 05, 2008 10:50 am)

It won't stand up... if there is no consideration on both parts, then there is no contract...
 
If the contract isn't fulfilled, then they would have to show damages to keep the money..
 
In the car business, there are no non-refundable deposits.. no matter what he signed... If they keep his money, they have to show that he got something for it, or they had a loss.. I don't think they can do that on a Honda FIT, that sells as soon as it hits the lot..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [thegreatoz] by ateixeira
Sep 05, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: thegreatoz (Sep 04, 2008 9:25 pm)

That's crazy, you're a loyal Honda buyer and they actually kept your deposit?
 
Sheesh. How would they treat Joe Schmoe.

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