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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

8676 messages,  Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 1:07 PM

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Re: Mazda 3 Sedan I New Vaue 2.0 [joem5] by bumpy
Aug 21, 2008 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: joem5 (Aug 20, 2008 12:53 pm)

Changing the wheels would be cheaper than dumping the car. I'd bet that the el cheapo steel wheels off a base Focus or something would fit. Main thing is to keep the overall tire diameter about the same.
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Re: What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts? [harrychezt] by kchaney
Aug 24, 2008 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: harrychezt (Jan 10, 2006 9:55 pm)

sound's like some exercise is in order. My wife, my sister and my son in his childseat rode around tulsa all day in the backseat with no problems. My nephew at 6foot two sit behind me (I'm 6 foot) on a three hour trip with no problems. maybe we're just real poor and ain't real picky.
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Re: Mazda 3 Sedan I New Vaue 2.0 [joem5] by ateixeira
Aug 27, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: joem5 (Aug 20, 2008 12:53 pm)

Forget the sedan...but why haven't they come out with a 2.0l 5 door? That would seem to appeal to the frugal crowd with gas prices nowadays.
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Re: Mazda 3 Sedan I New Vaue 2.0 [ateixeira] by alltorque
Aug 30, 2008 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 27, 2008 11:30 am)

I almost hate myself for saying this - but only "almost" - here in Europe the Mazda 3 5-door hatch is available with 1.4, 1.6 and 2.0 gassers and 1.6 and 2.0 diesels, the latter with 143bhp.
 
I really do not understand why they aren't available in USA. Hopefully they will be ere long.
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Re: Mazda 3 Sedan I New Vaue 2.0 [alltorque] by texases
Aug 30, 2008 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: alltorque (Aug 30, 2008 5:53 am)

The diesels all come down to emissions. Only just now will we start getting ones that can comply with our stringent particulates regulations, and most (except Honda's, as far as I know) require an additional urea injection system.
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Re: Mazda 3 Sedan I New Vaue 2.0 [texases] by ateixeira
Sep 02, 2008 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: texases (Aug 30, 2008 7:40 am)

Benz bluetecs arrive for MY2009, so they're here. VW has new TDIs also, but I think they cost a bit more with the clean emissions.
 
More to come soon.
 
Subaru just launched a diesel Forester in europe.
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Re: Mazda 3 Sedan I New Vaue 2.0 [ateixeira] by alltorque
Sep 02, 2008 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 02, 2008 9:29 am)

Here in Europe, Subaru have launched their new "Boxer" diesel in Legacy, (Saloon & Tourer), Forester and Outback. Not in the Imprezza yet but..........................probably just a matter of time.
 
Engine is an H4, 2.0Ltr, 148bhp/258Lbft. Must go for a test-drive.
 
Have a search on the Subaru UK site for details.
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Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) by thegraduate
Sep 04, 2008 (8:59 pm)
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Anybody wanting to ask me any questions, please do.
 
I'll say it felt more roomy than the previous fit, but still was a few inches short on front legroom, for me (6'5" 200), where a Civic fits better, and my Accord is fantastic.
 
The engine noise seemed greatly reduced from 2008, and the ride seemed a little smoother as well. Engine power felt identical to the 2008, but there was an extra person in my drive today (about 180 lbs) so that probably makes up the difference.
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [thegraduate] by nippononly
Sep 04, 2008 (9:04 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 04, 2008 8:59 pm)

So they have arrived at your local dealer? I heard they would be a month early - guess that was true....
 
My local dealer sold his last '08 Fit ages ago. I imagine they must have been impatient to get the '09s in.
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Re: Test Drove a 2009 Fit Sport (No Navi) [nippononly] by thegraduate
Sep 04, 2008 (9:12 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 04, 2008 9:04 pm)

They had but one 2009; when we got in it it had 5 miles on it. They were ready to deal if we were, but we only drove it out of curiousity. I guess it wasn't just a demo. The sticker was $17,5XX or so, with an extra $299 for the Xylon treatment tacked on. Cute car, but not worth that to me. I'd have a Versa that's better equipped, or better yet, something like a midsize Ford or Hyundai. I'm 6'5", so interior room is worth a premium to me.

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