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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

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#7949 of 8656 Re: Found one [nwng] by andre1969 Aug 14, 2008 (10:24 am)
Replying to: nwng (Aug 14, 2008 10:07 am) it's just funny to see the crv is morphing back into a civic wagon after all these years   Oh that's an Elantra wagon. The CR-V is actually morphing into something that you'd use to smuggle 500 cases of Coors from Texarkanna to Atlanta with a '77 Trans Am running blocker for you! Replies to this message: thegraduate (Aug 14, 2008 12:22 pm)
#7950 of 8656 Re: Found one [andre1969] by thegraduate Aug 14, 2008 (12:22 pm)
Replying to: andre1969 (Aug 14, 2008 10:24 am) I doubt that a 2.4L I4 can haul that much beer in that big of a hurry, with time to stop at the choke-n-puke along the way.
#7951 of 8656 Re: Found one [nwng] by ateixeira Aug 14, 2008 (12:44 pm)
Replying to: nwng (Aug 14, 2008 10:07 am) It does sort of look like a CR-V from the profile, though Volvo was first to do those kind of tail lights.
#7952 of 8656 just finished by nippononly Aug 14, 2008 (4:39 pm)
looking at this week's Autoweek, and does anyone besides me wish like crazy that they would bring the 500 Abarth and the new MiTo over to the States?   Both look like a lot of fun, especially the Abarth. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Aug 15, 2008 7:50 am) nippononly (Aug 15, 2008 8:29 am) ateixeira (Aug 15, 2008 8:54 am)
#7953 of 8656 Hey Nippon... by andre1969 Aug 15, 2008 (4:29 am)
since you were able to post the link to that pdf file for car sales at the 2008 halfway mark, could you do it for truck sales, too? I'm curious to see how badly they've been whacked so far this year.
#7954 of 8656 Re: just finished [nippononly] by ateixeira Aug 15, 2008 (7:50 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Aug 14, 2008 4:39 pm) I'm not a fan of the 500, but a friend who likes it tells me it's because I'm not familiar with the original, hence no nostalgia for it.   With Mini Cooper sales flying, maybe we will see them here. Replies to this message: nippononly (Aug 15, 2008 8:29 am) ateixeira (Aug 15, 2008 8:54 am)
#7955 of 8656 Re: just finished [ateixeira] by nippononly Aug 15, 2008 (8:29 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 15, 2008 7:50 am) I don't suppose we will unless they can find a way to distribute them in the U.S., and they can find the money to federalize them.   I guess there is some rumor that they are thinking they might establish a sort of one-model Abarth brand in the States? I would like that! Mini sales are always constrained by supply, and there would be room for both brands I would think.   As for the MiTo, Alfa would show Americans there is more than one way to make a premium small hatch. Mini, Abarth, and Alfa could share this niche and none would suffer for the others, I think.   andre: I have already lost the link for the trucks, as I saved both as pdfs then dumped my original source. If you go to http://autonews.com and search on it, I bet you could find it. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Aug 15, 2008 8:54 am)
#7956 of 8656 Re: just finished [nippononly] by ateixeira Aug 15, 2008 (8:54 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Aug 15, 2008 8:29 am) Even though Cooper demand is high, supply is still sort of small. It's not really a volume model, may never be.   I doubt they'll increase supply that much so we may not ever find out.
#7957 of 8656 Nippon Only is an Old Sage by joem5 Aug 17, 2008 (2:39 pm)
If I were you I'd listen to the guy. You might learn something.          Four or 5 years ago Himmler, Syder and I use to pull his chain. I think the Yaris,Fit and Scion are the way to go. Let's see the Fiesta and why is the Focus HB in Europe? Why are we the last country to get world cars?            I understand the Mini is cute,but is it reliable,now that the Germans are building it? There trannys and cluches are blown at 50k and no waranty,plus 5k to 7k to fix out of owners pocket. Americans are suckers not cheap.               Nippon, Americans maybe cheap,but look At Mazda 3, felt carpeting, styrofoam between recycled plastic grill and radiator,velcroed floor mats, an ash tray and cigarette lighter,RSA Eagle tires wowser dangerous on 1" of snow, also treadlife 18k to 25k if you're lucky.205 5017 low profiles on a sedan.Yes, I know the lighter the car the MPG goes up.               Beef up the Yaris ,Fit and Scion put heated seats, sunroof.,Or leave them alone just offer a lumbar support.Ford,GM, and Chrysler will never get it.              Gas will be back at $4.00 again,but how soon we forget. Replies to this message: nippononly (Aug 17, 2008 8:56 pm)
#7958 of 8656 Re: Nippon Only is an Old Sage [joem5] by nippononly Aug 17, 2008 (8:56 pm)
Replying to: joem5 (Aug 17, 2008 2:39 pm) Gas will be back at $4.00 again,but how soon we forget   Agreed, how soon we forget.   It is frustrating how long it takes automakers to bring their world cars to America, especially Toyota and Honda which each have about 48 models smaller than a Corolla that are already sold elsewhere.   What does Honda do? Does it bring any of them here? No, it will spend more than two more years reinventing the CRZ, and develop a new small hybrid from whole cloth rather than just offer us some of its more interesting models.   As for Toyota, I had so heartily hoped that Scion would be a permanent outlet for interesting and wacky small JDM vehicles in America, and instead they turned it into Boresville in less than three years.   I do applaud the return of the Fiesta though, even if that ALSO will take about a decade to accomplish, and I do wish VW would consider selling the Polo in the States, and that MB goes ahead with its rumored plans for the A-class, or whatever.

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