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Automotive News & Views What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?
8698 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 11:02 AM
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Aug 03, 2008 10:16 am) Some of the upcoming subs will fit that mold too, like the Fiesta, the new Aveo5 and the Beat that will replace it in a couple of years. Others like the Hornet and of course the existing Mini Cooper give you more flash, but often you pay extra for "flash", and the Mini is no exception. I wonder how they will price the Hornet when it arrives (courtesy of Chery Motors Inc). Seeing as its Chinese, I expect it will be low-priced. |
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Replying to: irismg (Aug 02, 2008 11:58 am) Your response was timely because either last night or the night before someone broke in to my flashy convertible (Miata) and stole all the change out of the center console. It unfortunately does draw unwanted attention.  At least there wasn't anything valuable in it. |
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'Cause they are pretty DARN good! From Automotive News, for 2008 sales through June 30: Fit: up 67% from 2007 Accent: up 48.9% Rio: up 29.1% Yaris: up 39% Mini Cooper: up 33.6% And if you're counting Versa (debatable for inclusion in this category, IMO), it is up 20.7%. And for those of you tracking the ForTwo, they sold 11,399 of them by midyear, and that wasn't a full six months of sales by any means. The only one that wasn't up in a big way (about flat instead) was the Aveo, which I think was partly because a lot of the Aveos were going to fleets last year, and GM is still cutting back on its rental fleet sales. http://www.autonews.com/assets/PDF/CA5240487.PDF
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 12, 2008 11:52 am) Well, there was the xA, down a whopping 99.6%.  Considering how bad off the economy supposedly is, I'm surprised that total car sales are staying as strong as they are. The grand total comes out to 3.989M, down from 4.059M. That's only a 1.7% drop. Now a lot of that is redistribution, as sales of smaller cars are increasing while bigger and more premium categories are dropping. Still, it looks like people are buying. I guess truck sales might tell a different story, though.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Aug 12, 2008 11:55 am) 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Aug 12, 2008 11:55 am) 
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Well, the xA got a lot bigger, especially the standard engine. So it went in the wrong direction, or at least the opposite direction compared to where consumers were heading. Bad timing.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 13, 2008 5:52 am) It is significant to note that while Toyota dealers can't keep Corollas in stock, Matrixes are piling up in unprecedented numbers. While Matrix has a lot more utiltity than the Corolla sedan, it also consumes at least 20% more gas, making it less popular in times of $4 gas. The same applies to the xD (replacement for the xA).
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 13, 2008 6:56 am) In Brazil they actually sell a Corolla Fielder, which is a Corolla wagon. An no it looks nothing at all like a Matrix. I'd pick that for the extra space, better visibility, plus better mileage to boot.  My brother is shopping for a Hyundai Tucson and I suggested one of those as an alternative. Both are FWD and the Fielder actually costs less in Brazil. |
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