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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Versa, Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, smart fortwo, MINI Cooper

#7908 of 8666 Re: Civic vs Corolla [nippononly] by lemmer Jul 28, 2008 (12:10 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Jul 28, 2008 12:00 pm) I'm not too excited about the new Accord either. Come to think of it, I am not too excited about any new cars. They all seem to get heavier and softer with each new generation.
#7909 of 8666 Interesting... by texases Jul 28, 2008 (12:11 pm)
...that the buyer ratings on the smart and Yaris (9.4) are higher (slightly) than the Fit (9.2)...go figure Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jul 28, 2008 1:34 pm) texases (Jul 28, 2008 1:59 pm) nippononly (Jul 28, 2008 4:14 pm)
#7910 of 8666 Re: Interesting... [texases] by thegraduate Jul 28, 2008 (1:34 pm)
Replying to: texases (Jul 28, 2008 12:11 pm) Statisically insignificant if you ask me. Replies to this message: texases (Jul 28, 2008 1:59 pm) nippononly (Jul 28, 2008 4:14 pm)
#7911 of 8666 Re: Interesting... [thegraduate] by texases Jul 28, 2008 (1:59 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 28, 2008 1:34 pm) Yes, nothing big, but the folks that wanted the smart must have REALLY wanted it, and the objective problems most reviewers have found with it just didn't matter to them. I wonder how many more folks like that there are out there Replies to this message: nippononly (Jul 28, 2008 4:14 pm)
#7912 of 8666 Re: Interesting... [texases] by nippononly Jul 28, 2008 (4:14 pm)
Replying to: texases (Jul 28, 2008 1:59 pm) I have been dipping into the "Real World MPG" threads from time to time, and I think there are proportionally more folks having a hard time getting great gas mileage in the Fit than in the other models. Since some of them were probably downsizers looking for superlative fuel economy, it might have contributed to extra disappointment vs the other two....just a thought, as I agree with the above that it could easily be statistically insignificant.
#7913 of 8666 Re: Civic vs Corolla [nippononly] by plekto Jul 29, 2008 (1:15 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Jul 28, 2008 12:00 pm) I used to call this Camry-ization, but I'm going to start calling it Accord-ization.   The proper term is "Buick-ify". There's a reason Toyota is called Japan's Buick. Replies to this message: nippononly (Jul 29, 2008 3:32 pm) plekto (Jul 30, 2008 11:01 am) ateixeira (Jul 31, 2008 10:15 am) nippononly (Jul 31, 2008 3:44 pm) and 9 more...
#7914 of 8666 Re: Civic vs Corolla [plekto] by nippononly Jul 29, 2008 (3:32 pm)
Replying to: plekto (Jul 29, 2008 1:15 pm) Well Buick now sells less total vehicles than Toyota sells Camrys and Honda sells Accords, so it seemed appropriate to update the term. :-/   Heck, the sale of Minis, Fits, and Yarises exceeds by a goodly margin Buick's total sales, and all 3 of those models were constrained by production capacity from meeting full demand (hatchbacks only, in the case of the Yaris). Replies to this message: plekto (Jul 30, 2008 11:01 am) ateixeira (Jul 31, 2008 10:15 am) nippononly (Jul 31, 2008 3:44 pm) ateixeira (Aug 01, 2008 9:31 am) and 8 more...
#7915 of 8666 Re: Civic vs Corolla [nippononly] by plekto Jul 30, 2008 (11:01 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Jul 29, 2008 3:32 pm) But Buick is a mentality more than a brand...
#7916 of 8666 Re: Civic vs Corolla [nippononly] by ateixeira Jul 31, 2008 (10:15 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Jul 29, 2008 3:32 pm) Toyota gets a lot of flack but let's face it - a lot of people just want a quiet, comfortable car that gets them from point A to point B. There is a reason they are the #1 car company in the world.   Yes, our Sienna is not very exciting, and the steering has less feedback than my Nintendo Wii Remote (a lot less....), but so what? It's a freaking family hauler, not a sports car. It is a lot quieter than the Odyssey, rides smoother, my kids can watch movies while my wife sleeps, and I can drive in total peace.   Being "boring" or "dull" or whatever you want to call it doesn't make them bad cars. They are designed to be isolated. That's intentional.   If you don't like them, don't buy them, but you can't say it's better or worse, it's all a matter of what you want. For people that want quiet isolation, IMO Toyota > Honda.   It's incredible how many people can't understand that.   I'm not targeting my rant at you or anyone specifically, just at the general attitude enthusiasts have towards Toyota. If your aunt asks you to recommend a quiet car, tell her to get a Toyota, odds are she'll thank you for it. Replies to this message: nippononly (Jul 31, 2008 3:44 pm) ateixeira (Aug 01, 2008 9:31 am) irismg (Aug 02, 2008 11:58 am) and 7 more...
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