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Automotive News & Views What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?
8676 messages, Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 1:07 PM
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Replying to: podred (Jul 26, 2008 4:07 pm) Eh, it is a tippy, non-responsive, dull appliance of a transport. The base model doesn't even have sway bars. Its a pretty miserable drive (perhaps not the new '09, but so far the reports haven't been too encouraging). In contrast to a Civic, which feels more responsive, handles better, and has no drawbacks relative to the Corolla.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 26, 2008 7:40 pm) I do share your sentiments about the Corolla's lack of personality, or any "fun" pretenses whatsoever. The Civic is a RACE car in comparison.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 26, 2008 8:51 pm) Valid point, it seems one is tuned for luxury and one is tuned for sport. I didn't care for the highway ride of the Corolla because as a passenger, I felt it bordered on wallowy.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 27, 2008 6:11 am) |
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Putting my remarks into context, my earlier statment "The Corolla began as a great car" I stand by. However that is keeping it in the context of what that car was designed for. As far as a Civic, which I did not reference in my earlier post, I also believe that is a great car as well. These are two cars in the same class that simply are engineered a bit differently to reflect the overall values of Toyota & Honda. Both world class car companies. To argue which is the sportiest, or has the best ride is a natural argument based on the drivers preferences. It's an argument that is held about any two competitors models no matter what class, price, model, body style, etc. That said, having owned both Corollas and Hondas of the same year my personal preferences aside (Honda) I remain steadfast in my claim that they are both great cars......... 
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Replying to: podred (Jul 28, 2008 8:48 am)  Just kidding (for the most part,  ).
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 28, 2008 8:50 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jul 28, 2008 10:36 am) As for the next-gen Fit, they have already said they softened the suspension to "smooth out" that great handling, in order to achieve a better ride. I used to call this Camry-ization, but I'm going to start calling it Accord-ization.  More articles out there today on the predicament Mini finds itself in: no more cars available to ship for dealer stock for the remainder of this year.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 28, 2008 12:00 pm) |
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...that the buyer ratings on the smart and Yaris (9.4) are higher (slightly) than the Fit (9.2)...go figure 
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