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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Versa, Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, smart fortwo, MINI Cooper


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Re: Just out of curiosity... [fintail] by bumpy
Jul 05, 2008 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 05, 2008 9:07 am)

Right. 3 lights are the old 450 model, and 2 lights are the 451.
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Re: Yaris vs FIt ? [podred] by plekto
Jul 07, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: podred (Jul 04, 2008 1:27 pm)

The 5 door fit comes standard with the reclining and sliding rear seats. This makes an enormous difference. The Fit also has this trick, so it feels cavernous compared to even a lot of mid-size sedans once you slide the seat back a notch.
 
Yes, Toyota makes no junk. They are myopic, will gouge you a fortune on options, make some really bonehead maneuvers, and their cars have virtually no soul or personality. But they make no junk.
 
If you want a basic box to get around for a lot less money than anything else the competition offers(except maybe Hyundai), the Yaris is a no-brainer. Doubly so with the much better looking and way more useable 5-door.
 
EDIT:
There is a 6.7% tarrif on non-North American vehicles in Canada as well as a routine 20% markup over U.S. prices(still priced as if the Canadian dollar was at 80 cents vs the U.S. dollar). So the Price in the U.S. will be barely more expensive than the current 3 door model is. (closer to $12K)
 
I just checked - A Yaris 3 door in Canada is 14,315 - base model with A/C. In the U.S., it's $12,210 for the base model (comparable the Canada's middle line trim, no less)
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press request by kirstie_h HOST
Jul 07, 2008 (11:17 am)
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A reporter from a large newspaper is looking to speak to consumers who traded-in a larger vehicle for a small compact car to save money on gas, but spent money on options to get something more comfortable and appealing. If you’re interested in speaking to the reporter, please contact Chintan Talati at ctalatiedmunds.com with your daytime contact information no later than July 9, 2008.
 
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Chintan Talati
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they're selling by nippononly
Jul 23, 2008 (11:57 am)
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so many Minis now that they are sold out for the rest of the year, as demand totally exceeds supply:
 
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080723/FREE/114049104/1528/- newsletter01
 
Those are sales numbers that most premium and entry-lux brands would be most envious of BRANDWIDE, and have occurred despite the transaction prices of Minis getting well over $20K in most cases and exceeding the average transaction prices of many midsize cars and most compacts....
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Re: they're selling [nippononly] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 23, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 23, 2008 11:57 am)

Maybe sold out... as in.. you can't order one for 2008..
 
But, my local dealer has at least a dozen on the lot that aren't spoken for, and more arriving every week..
 
Not that they don't sell like crazy... and for full MSRP..
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Re: they're selling [kyfdx] by nippononly
Jul 23, 2008 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 23, 2008 12:03 pm)

No, that's what they meant: they can no longer build ones for dealer inventory and still keep up with demand for preordered ones. So beginning now, dealers will see a big drawdown in their standing stock for the remainder of the year. The "more arriving every week..." part is going to slow to a trickle, and maybe stop.
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Re: they're selling [nippononly] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 23, 2008 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 23, 2008 12:16 pm)

Yeah.. 34-37 MPG highway will move some metal...
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Re: they're selling [kyfdx] by nippononly
Jul 23, 2008 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 23, 2008 12:42 pm)

Plus the Clubman was even more popular than they had hoped it would be.
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Re: Yaris vs FIt ? [steve_] by lewjac3
Jul 24, 2008 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 04, 2008 11:46 am)

absolutely, that's what I am waiting for.
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Re: Yaris vs FIt ? [plekto] by lewjac3
Jul 24, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 07, 2008 9:38 am)

Not true, I have owned three Toyota pickups for the past thirty years, and I had to bring my 2004 in for a recall in 05, the dealer gave me a courtesy car and that Corolla was a piece of gaaarbage.

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