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Automotive News & Views What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?
8653 messages, Last post on Nov 27, 2009 at 6:22 PM
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what is going on in here. Oh I gotta question that I figure someone in here can answer. Where can you find the raw EPA numbers for a vehicle? I don't mean the 2007 and under numbers I mean the 1985 and under numbers that they use for the CAFE ratings.
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Replying to: british_rover (Jun 21, 2008 10:29 am) 
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Replying to: bristol2 (Jun 21, 2008 11:40 am) The reason I am trying to figure out what the raw EPA numbers are is because I assume that is what they use to figure out the tax credits on Hybrids and the new Clean diesel cars. Right now the TDI Jetta isn't on the tax credit list but I assume it will be once they update it sometime next quarter for the 2009 MY vehicles. I am just trying to see if I can get a round guess of what the tax credit will be now.
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Replying to: british_rover (Jun 21, 2008 10:29 am) |
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Replying to: british_rover (Jun 21, 2008 11:47 am) The other criteria is how many of a particular model is sold. I think the reasoning is that once you reach a certain number sold , it is not new anymore.
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Replying to: guss (Jun 23, 2008 9:33 am) |
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"For the first five months of the year, U.S. sales of the Fit were up 64.0 percent to 29,784 vehicles. And that's before the updated model even arrives." "We had planned to sell between 30,000 and 40,000 and figured out very early that wasn't enough, so we increased production to 60,000. That still wasn't enough," Mendel said here last week" So they will shoot for 80K annually in the U.S. when the model starts selling in October. Even then it may not be enough, but there's only so much they can do - they are pulling from a global well of Fit production that is only half a million or so, and is maxed out. http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080623/FREE/14228425/1528/n- ewsletter01
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 23, 2008 8:20 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 26, 2008 7:48 am)  They do plan to bring even more North American capacity for small-car production on-line in the next five years, I believe. For now, they are playing with the notion of sending Chinese-built Fits (already in production and currently being sent to Europe) to the U.S. Not sure if anyone would even notice, or if they would care. I suspect if they did notice they would care.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 26, 2008 8:37 am)  I just wish that they made a Civic wagon or hatch for the US of A.  james
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