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Automotive News & Views What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?
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Replying to: nwng (Apr 08, 2008 8:58 am)  68bhp/69lbft and tops out with the 1.8 VVT-i gasser 131bhp/127lbft There's a 1.3 VVT-i in the mix also. As I've said before - if you don't have a diesel in your range; your European range is incomplete. My nearest neighbours have the following diesels : Saab 9-5, Ford Focus, Ford Galaxy (MPV), Renault Laguna, Audi A8, Mercedes E and C, old Land Rover and Toyota RAV4 plus my Volvo S60. The other cars are smaller gassers : Citroen Aygo, Peugeot 206, 2 x Honda Jazz (Fit) and an old Renault Clio. Oh and a 20 year old Mercedes S500 which is wonderfully inappropriate. |
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Replying to: bottgers (Apr 08, 2008 12:08 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Apr 09, 2008 7:41 am) Is the GXP going to get the 7.0 liter V-8? That sounds like it would be a wild ride! Actually, given the size of the engine, I think the G8's pretty impressive. The EPA has it rated at 15/24, with the 6.0/automatic. In comparison, a Corvette with the 6.2/automatic is rated at 15/25. It's rated at 16/26 with the 6.2/manual, and the 7.0/manual is rated at 15/24. I'm sure those figures drop pretty quickly once you start having some fun with all that power, though.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 09, 2008 8:23 am) |
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editorial in Automotive News today mentions that sales of what they call their "budget class" - consisting of Aveo, Rio, Accent, Yaris, and ForTwo - were up a whopping 33% for the first quarter of the year. Way to go subcompacts!!! Unfortunately, AN classifies cars by starting price range, not by size, so the Fit gets thrown in with the larger compact cars (Cobalt, Focus, Sentra, Elantra, Corolla/Matrix, etc). But the Fit was up by the same % as the other subs from what I remember reading from Honda. The article also mentions that among what it calls "sporty cars", the Mini Cooper was one of only three (out of 33 models in that group) to be up in sales. They call it a sporty car, I call it a subcompact!  Compact and midsize cars? Down by about 2.5% each. And as we know, large car sales TANKED. As did SUVs (down 24%), pick-ups (down another 15% even from 2007's dismal performance), and minivans (down 20% - Toyota, Honda, and Chrysler now dominate this segment with 80% of all minivan sales between them). http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080414/ANA06/804140311/-1
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 14, 2008 8:25 am) How did the Sienna and Ody do compared to their own sales last year? I doubt they were really down 20% model by model. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 14, 2008 8:56 am) Odyssey sales have dropped by single-digit percentages for the first quarter, if my fuzzy memory is serving me well. I know Honda just put a lease incentive on Odyssey because of dropping sales. Sienna sales are strong enough that Toyota is considering giving Sienna production more factory space, taking up some now being used to build Tundras that nobody is buying... The 20% drop in minivan sales can be attributed almost solely to the fact that Dodge isn't dumping half a million SWB Caravans per year into the rental fleets any more...by 1-1-07, Ford and GM minivan sales were pretty much bust already, so they had very little effect on the YTD comparisons between this year and last.
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 14, 2008 11:34 am)  Honda has lowered prices on the Ody, I know because they're much lower now than they were in May 2007 when I was minivan shopping. The lower prices have helped them gain market share within the segment, though.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 14, 2008 8:56 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 15, 2008 8:48 am) Dodge Journey Subcompacts anyone? Anyone? |
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