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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Versa, Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, smart fortwo, MINI Cooper


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Re: oregonboy... [andre1969] by ateixeira
Apr 02, 2008 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 02, 2008 11:14 am)

That cop ain't bad lookin', but the scene looks more like it's from a B-movie in the, um, adult section.
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Well, that sort of just by iluvmysephia1
Apr 02, 2008 (11:32 am)
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resets us again, right back to...subcompact automobiles. Would you consider a Model T a subcompact, BTW?
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Re: Well, that sort of just [iluvmysephia1] by andre1969
Apr 03, 2008 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 02, 2008 11:32 am)

Would you consider a Model T a subcompact, BTW?
 
Well their wheelbase was around 100", and overall length was about 165". So yeah, definitely subcompact.
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Re: Well, that sort of just [andre1969] by sandbyme
Apr 03, 2008 (5:33 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 03, 2008 5:14 am)

I own a 1927 Model T.
Today, it will get 22-25 miles to the gallon and because of the suspension height and small tires it goes off road just fine. And does up to 50 mph on the road
It could go just about anywhere 99% of these SUVs could go.
Remember, when this thing was built there were virtually no asphalt or concrete roads in America.
With all the supposed technology today....
We cannot build a 4wd today thats gets better gas mileage than a model T?
Please...
We are high on horsepower...
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five stars in the side crash test by steve_ HOST
Apr 04, 2008 (7:27 am)
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Smart crash test results are in (Straightline)
 
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Re: five stars in the side crash test [steve_] by ateixeira
Apr 04, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 04, 2008 7:27 am)

4 stars are not bad, really, but in a world where you sort of expect Kias to get 5 stars, that might be seen as a negative.
 
I'm surprised it got 5 stars in that side impact, look at the intrusion.
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Re: five stars in the side crash test [steve_] by lostwrench
Apr 04, 2008 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 04, 2008 7:27 am)

Did you see the rollover rating? Only 3 stars!
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Advantage???? by karsick
Apr 04, 2008 (5:34 pm)
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Can someone tell me why the Smart would ever be preferred over a Yaris or Fit? (beyond the minor advantage in parking, that is)
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Re: Advantage???? [karsick] by bumpy
Apr 04, 2008 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: karsick (Apr 04, 2008 5:34 pm)

Mileage, weight reduction, interior room, customization.
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Re: five stars in the side crash test [lostwrench] by andre1969
Apr 05, 2008 (4:02 am)
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Replying to: lostwrench (Apr 04, 2008 2:12 pm)

Did you see the rollover rating? Only 3 stars!
 
I'm surprised about that, too. I figured a smaller, lighter car would do better in a rollover test, since you don't have all that weight crushing down on the roof. I guess something else could have happened though, like the crash test dummy's head coming into hard contact with some part inside the car that could have dealt a serious injury to a live person?
 
I've noticed a similar thing in the frontal crash tests, where sometimes the car itself looks like it held up really well, but the seatbelts just didn't do a good job keeping the dummy in place, so it bounced around and hit the door sill or roof pillar or some other hard object.

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