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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

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#7443 of 8564 andre... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 02, 2008 (5:43 am)
no, I don't disagree at all with your points. I am just giving my personal opionion on huge bling-bling SUV's, vehicles that just don't fit in to the 2008's and on. They really don't. They just look like waste. Period. Self-indulgent waste.   Of course insurance companies should peg them with higher rates if they use their large SUV's as ram-rods. I'm not saying all huge SUV drivers drive like that, but some do. It's just that large SUV's, with their huge set-ups that block vision for others on the road and get crappy ghastly mileage...ummm....don't win any points in the "look to the future" department. They represent a once-proud American vehicle product, one whose train has since sailed. I do realize that an idiot can drive a Mitsubishi Lancer GTS as well as an idiot can drive a 2005 Ford Expedition. It is a very individualistic thing, how we drive and how we view our privilege of driving. In light of $4.00 ghastly, I don't see how driving a Ford Expedition can do anything for a person but win them the Darwin Award. Nuff said.
#7444 of 8564 Re: Me, bash huge SUV's? [iluvmysephia1] by ateixeira Apr 02, 2008 (7:58 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 01, 2008 8:50 pm) Wow, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel!   To be fair, about .001% of SUV owners actually do make use of their towing capacity and off road ability. Replies to this message: nippononly (Apr 02, 2008 9:31 am) ateixeira (Apr 02, 2008 9:40 am) oregonboy (Apr 02, 2008 10:17 am) explorerx4 (Apr 05, 2008 3:10 pm) podred (Apr 06, 2008 1:45 pm) and 13 more...
#7445 of 8564 Re: Me, bash huge SUV's? [ateixeira] by nippononly Apr 02, 2008 (9:31 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 02, 2008 7:58 am) Actually, I believe it's 5-10% for towing, according to the last numbers I saw. And a much smaller percentage (but not .001%!) for offroad users.   And the real problem with the large SUVs, besides the obvious foreign oil implications of their sub-20 gas mileage, is the bumper height disparity with cars, something the NHTSA is derelict in its duty to fix.   And andre: yes, it's ultimately the driver responsible, but we have little to no real driver education anywhere in this country, and we can more effectively regulate improvements in vehicle design and mix than we can solve this driver education problem.   But when liability insurance for drivers of large trucks and SUVs approaches or exceeds twice the cost of the same insurance for drivers of small cars, it may provide a push for people to think twice about buying the largest vehicles unless they really, REALLY, need them. Gas costs will do the same. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Apr 02, 2008 9:40 am) oregonboy (Apr 02, 2008 10:17 am) explorerx4 (Apr 05, 2008 3:10 pm) podred (Apr 06, 2008 1:45 pm) steve_ (Apr 06, 2008 5:55 pm) and 1 more... andre1969 (Apr 07, 2008 5:19 am) and 10 more...
#7446 of 8564 Re: Me, bash huge SUV's? [nippononly] by ateixeira Apr 02, 2008 (9:40 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Apr 02, 2008 9:31 am) I know, I was just having a little fun with that.   I actually had a hitch on my Forester and used it a bunch of times.
#7447 of 8564 Re: Me, bash huge SUV's? [nippononly] by oregonboy Apr 02, 2008 (10:17 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Apr 02, 2008 9:31 am) the bumper height disparity with cars, something the NHTSA is derelict in its duty to fix.   That's a pet peeve of mine, compounded by the bozos who get their trucks "lifted"
#7448 of 8564 oregonboy... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 02, 2008 (10:48 am)
LOL....I was limiting my rant to just huge SUV's, but, now that you show that picture! Excess, right down to the size of the...ummm...never mind. Replies to this message: andre1969 (Apr 02, 2008 11:14 am) ateixeira (Apr 02, 2008 11:16 am)
#7449 of 8564 Re: oregonboy... [iluvmysephia1] by andre1969 Apr 02, 2008 (11:14 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 02, 2008 10:48 am) To be brutally honest, I see nothing whatsoever wrong with the height of those bumpers. But I'd be willing to check, in person. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Apr 02, 2008 11:16 am)
#7450 of 8564 Re: oregonboy... [andre1969] by ateixeira Apr 02, 2008 (11:16 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 02, 2008 11:14 am) That cop ain't bad lookin', but the scene looks more like it's from a B-movie in the, um, adult section.
#7451 of 8564 Well, that sort of just by iluvmysephia1 Apr 02, 2008 (11:32 am)
resets us again, right back to...subcompact automobiles. Would you consider a Model T a subcompact, BTW? Replies to this message: andre1969 (Apr 03, 2008 5:14 am) sandbyme (Apr 03, 2008 5:33 am) explorerx4 (Apr 05, 2008 3:38 pm)
#7452 of 8564 Re: Well, that sort of just [iluvmysephia1] by andre1969 Apr 03, 2008 (5:14 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 02, 2008 11:32 am) Would you consider a Model T a subcompact, BTW?   Well their wheelbase was around 100", and overall length was about 165". So yeah, definitely subcompact. Replies to this message: sandbyme (Apr 03, 2008 5:33 am) explorerx4 (Apr 05, 2008 3:38 pm)

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