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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

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#7413 of 8676 Re: 2009 Honda Fit [thegraduate] by andre1969 Mar 26, 2008 (5:35 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 26, 2008 12:10 pm) The cheapest Corolla has an MSRP over $15k. The XR-S model I priced didn't have leather, but cost over $25k. I'll just take a V6 Altima over that one, thankyouverymuch.   If (and that's a big "IF") I decide to get a new car, the Altima is pretty high on my list, although I'd probably just do the 4-cyl. My Mom & stepdad recently bought an '08 4-cyl model with leather and a sunroof, and I think it was only like $24K, out the door.   I sat in the '09 Corolla at the auto show, and didn't find it to be any more roomy or comfy than the previous generation. Still not enough legroom for my tastes. Nice little car otherwise though. I like the new styling, which definitely seems upscale. Replies to this message: busiris (Mar 26, 2008 6:08 pm) bpizzuti (Mar 27, 2008 5:22 am) ateixeira (Mar 28, 2008 6:12 am) busiris (Mar 28, 2008 6:26 pm) and 6 more...
#7414 of 8676 Re: 2009 Honda Fit [andre1969] by busiris Mar 26, 2008 (6:08 pm)
Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 26, 2008 5:35 pm) I narrowed my new car choice to the new 09 Corolla or the 08 Altima. After waiting to see the new Corolla, and finding out that you couldn/'t get bluetooth and NAV together (and other option limitations), as well as the inside almost the same as previous Corollas, I began looking at other autos.   I looked at the Jetta, but again, no bluetooth, no leather available, etc., so Jetta was out. Considered the Passat, but it was 3-4K higher than a comparable Altima. I kept looking, but each time I came back to the 2.5SL   Drove the Altima with CVT and fell in love with it.   My daughter has an 05 Corolla and loves it, and its been a great car. However, Toyota appears to be adapting GM's marketing philosophies, and refuses to offer many options on the Corolla, hoping the buyer will move up to the Camry.   And, the cost of the Corolla has gone up quite a bit. I still think the Corolla is a good car, but I think Toyota is making a mistake by limiting the Corolla's options and features. Replies to this message: bpizzuti (Mar 27, 2008 5:22 am) ateixeira (Mar 28, 2008 6:12 am) busiris (Mar 28, 2008 6:26 pm) snakeweasel (Mar 28, 2008 8:28 pm) and 3 more... nwng (Mar 31, 2008 9:03 am) and 1 more...
#7415 of 8676 Re: 2009 Honda Fit [busiris] by bpizzuti Mar 27, 2008 (5:22 am)
Replying to: busiris (Mar 26, 2008 6:08 pm) I think Toyota is expecting people who want customization to go to Scion, relieving them of having to do much in the way of options on Corolla or Yaris. Remember, you can get Nav on the xD too. Of course, that's got even LESS legroom...   Personally I'm looking at the Elantra (either the SE or the upcoming Touring) because I insist on getting ESC....which eliminates Sentra, Altima, the current Fit, Civic, Spectra, Rio, Accent, Aveo, tC....did I miss anyone? Probably lots more   THAT'S the big problem with a lot of smaller/cheaper cars, is lack of safety equipment, and these smaller cars need them more, too. Let's see, Traction and Stability are available on...   Elantra Corolla (and hence Matrix) xB xD Cobalt (but why would anyone buy one?) SX4 Impreza   Not a whole lot else...I don't bother looking into anything Chrysler anymore.
#7416 of 8676 4 Door Yaris Hatchback by plekto Mar 27, 2008 (4:33 pm)
http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plugins/iimage-gallery.php?idpost=4139&id- - g=1&idi=4   I want one.   Toyota, bring this over the the U.S.. I'll absolutely buy it the second it comes out. Replies to this message: nippononly (Mar 27, 2008 5:17 pm) tiff_c (Mar 27, 2008 5:33 pm)
#7417 of 8676 Re: 4 Door Yaris Hatchback [plekto] by nippononly Mar 27, 2008 (5:17 pm)
Replying to: plekto (Mar 27, 2008 4:33 pm) So they stuffed the Corolla engine in a Yaris, stuck 17" alloys on it, and called it the TS, huh?   Sign me up. I hate the looks of the xD.
#7418 of 8676 Re: 4 Door Yaris Hatchback [plekto] by tiff_c Mar 27, 2008 (5:33 pm)
Replying to: plekto (Mar 27, 2008 4:33 pm) Well pretty much only the body style is different. It's a 5 door yaris but stretched longer than he 3 door. They sell a lot of them but it's still a Yaris which isn't a bad thing. No idea what engine it has in it. The xD has the corolla engine. No idea about the 5 door yaris.
#7419 of 8676 Re: 2009 Honda Fit [busiris] by ateixeira Mar 28, 2008 (6:12 am)
Replying to: busiris (Mar 26, 2008 6:08 pm) Why is BT so critical to you?   I just use the speaker phone. I have a bluetooth headset but it's annoying to have an extra charger just for that. Replies to this message: busiris (Mar 28, 2008 6:26 pm) snakeweasel (Mar 28, 2008 8:28 pm) busiris (Mar 29, 2008 1:54 pm) podred (Mar 29, 2008 2:45 pm) and 1 more... nwng (Mar 31, 2008 9:03 am) lilengineerboy (Apr 01, 2008 3:15 am)
#7420 of 8676 18" wheels on a Toyota Yaris hatch? by iluvmysephia1 Mar 28, 2008 (8:15 am)
Does that sound like a large tire/wheel combo to anyone else? Or, umm...is it good for that car. What's that new micro car Toyota has designed that uses quite the amount of triangles in it's tiny body design? Any body see that one? It's been in the car mags and on the net a bit. Their answer to the Nissan Micra and Fiat 500 and on and on.   Yep, nippon, Canada does get the Yaris 4-door hatchback, indeed. Replies to this message: bumpy (Mar 28, 2008 10:54 am) plekto (Mar 28, 2008 4:38 pm)
#7421 of 8676 Re: 18" wheels on a Toyota Yaris hatch? [iluvmysephia1] by bumpy Mar 28, 2008 (10:54 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Mar 28, 2008 8:15 am) Those 18" boat anchors probably add 2 seconds to the 0-60 time and 50 feet to the 60-0 distance.   The little Yote is the iQ.
#7422 of 8676 bumpy... by iluvmysephia1 Mar 28, 2008 (11:17 am)
yeah, don't get me wrong, I like the looks of the Toyota Yaris hatchback 3-door. But the 18-inchers kind of woke me up this morning. I mean, I have 18-inchers on my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS, and they look big on there. Imagine them on a Yaris hatchback!   The iQ it is, yep. Actually looks appealing to me and Yota best get to producing that rig as ghastly prices continue to rise upwardly-like.

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