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Re: As far as Mitsubishi reliability goes I read up [ateixeira]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Dec 12, 2007 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 12, 2007 11:59 am)
Seems hardly fair to blame the company's product for that.
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- #6588 of 8700
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Re: Scion tC [boaz47]
by lilengineerboy
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Dec 12, 2007 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 12, 2007 12:18 pm)
I remember some here speculating that it would be the replacement for the Celica but that just didn't happen.
They replaced an overpriced bloated sporty looking car with an inexpensive bloated sporty looking car. That is the Celica's replacement. I would still rather have a Civic, personally.
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Re: Scion tC [lilengineerboy]
by dromedarius
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Dec 12, 2007 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 12, 2007 1:22 pm)
They replaced an overpriced bloated sporty looking car with an inexpensive bloated sporty looking car. That is the Celica's replacement. I would still rather have a Civic, personally.
You've got THAT right. I was so disappointed in the tC. Honda would do it better if they chose to reenter that market. The Prelude was a great car!
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Re: Scion tC [dromedarius]
by lilengineerboy
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Dec 12, 2007 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: dromedarius (Dec 12, 2007 2:03 pm)
i think that whole market fell apart. In the 90s, cars like the Celica All Trac, Eclipse GST&GSX (and the rest of its Diamond Star friends), the Mazda6 GT/Probe GT, the 'lude, and even the Isuzu Impulse RS all had a lot of technology and offered a lot of performance per dollar in those packages. Now we have the Solara and the Accord sedan, both of which scream Monte Carlo to me.
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Re: Scion tC [lilengineerboy]
by boaz47
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Dec 12, 2007 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 12, 2007 2:27 pm)
I have only had two Honda Cars. One was a early Civic Si and the other a Prelude. The Prelude was by far my favorite. After getting the Civic SI I had wondered if I would have liked the old CRX. Wish I would have given it a shot. My son got the SI and turned it into a rolling Boom Box. The base would pop the back windows open.
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Re: Scion tC [boaz47]
by andre1969
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Dec 12, 2007 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 12, 2007 2:38 pm)
Back in 1996, when I delivered pizzas part time for Little Caesars, one of the kids who worked there had an '87-91 era Civic hatchback. He tricked it out with a killer sound system. Literally. One evening he went on a delivery and it actually killed the car! So I went out and rescued him, and we went to his buddy's house and got a dog chain, went back to the car, tied it to my car with the chain, and dragged it home.
Aah, the humiliation. A HondaOhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmHonda being dragged home by a 330,000 mile 1968 Dart! Okay, to be fair, it was this kid's fault for hooking up a sound system that the alternator and battery couldn't keep up with, but still, the irony was kinda cute. Kinda like another time when we had three drivers: One of 'em looked kinda like Hyde from "That 70's Show", would giggle over nothing, and drove a Ford Ranger. The other was this emaciated, anti-social dude who always seemed paranoid and as it turned out, sold drugs on the side. He drove a Chevy Celebrity station wagon. And then there was me with my Dart. Within the same week, all of our cars died. The Celebrity blew its engine, the Ranger crapped its tranny, and the Dart, which died completely one night and then fired up later, as if possessed, only to die again 2 days later, simply needed a new set of $2.98 points.
Ah, those were the good old days of cheap gas, where you could drive whatever you wanted and whined when it got over maybe $1.30 per gallon. I guess if I tried that delivery routine these days I'd be delivering in a hybrid!
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Re: Scion tC [andre1969]
by imidazol97
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Dec 12, 2007 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 12, 2007 4:26 pm)
>Celebrity blew its engine
Was it a four cylinder? Didn't they have a head gasket leak develop unless you did the recommended remove valve cover and retorque the center two head bolts? A neighbor had one do that. I believe they even had a replacement set of head bolts to use for that application.
>simply needed a new set of $2.98 points.
What was it with points wearing out? I had a Mustang 289 that went through points about every 8 thousand miles. Plugs went a little longer.
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Re: Scion tC [imidazol97]
by texases
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Dec 12, 2007 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 12, 2007 6:50 pm)
Wearing out points - some would last, some would burn quickly, I remember it had something to do with how the rest of the ignition system was set up. Maybe something about the condenser? It's certainly been a while since I used my dwell tach!
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Re: Scion tC [imidazol97]
by andre1969
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Dec 12, 2007 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 12, 2007 6:50 pm)
I don't remember now which engine that Celebrity had. Actually, I was under the impression that it was the 4-cyl that was more reliable? I know 2 people who had Cavalier Z-24's, an '87 and an '89, with the 2.8, and both of them blew a head gasket. The '89 had about 100,000 miles, and at that point my buddy just got rid of it. With the '87, I don't know the mileage, but my friend's father, who was a metro bus mechanic, was able to fix it.
As for the points, I'd always heard that they should be replaced every 12,000 miles. Once I started delivering pizzas in that Dart, I lost track of just how fast the miles were racking up. I had changed them in 1994, when the car had maybe 280,000 miles on it. So, no big shock, I guess, when I was pushing 320-325,000, and the dang things fried in late 1996.
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