What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 11, 2007 6:25 am)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 10, 2007 4:58 am)

The snows are on order. They should be here this week. The RE92s are about half gone so we will put them on the bench for winter and bring them back out in summer. Its not so much I am afraid of losing it in the Subie, (or the Accord, for that matter) but I am totally freaked about some moron in an Explorer (or similar) creaming my Subie and taking out my family.
 
Oh I see yeah, no way would I drive in my area without snow tires on any car including AWD. I prefer Nokian tires and wouldn't swap them out for anything else!
Not much you can do about the other idjits on the road. Most SUV drivers only care when their insurance company won't pay up for their bad driving or when they have to pump gas.
I'm not opposed to SUV's for people who need them, but being in an SUV doesn't guarantee safety. In the snow and ice not much helps.
I wonder how a Mazdaspeed 3 will do in the snow.
The STI looks great but hard to justify the extra $$$$!
The MINI looks great but also has issues especially with the RFT's. All the good choices are coming out next year! Sham I can't wait.

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It must be an age-related thing.
 
Would you rather have MX-5 or Mazda6's motor in that Scion?

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It must be an age-related thing.
 
I'm pretty sure we are the same age, actually.
 
Would you rather have MX-5 or Mazda6's motor in that Scion?
 
How about a MazdaSpeed3 engine? Or a '92-95 Toyota MR2/Clica All-Trac Turbo engine, back when Toyota used to make sports cars? Maybe an SR20DET out of a Sunny or Silvia.
 
Basically you have a sub-compact with a small, hard to access back seat that is about as fast as my 4 cylinder Accord (not that it isn't a snooze-fest). It handles about the same and looks like roughly the same mileage.
 
One of the used cars I was looking at to commute with was a Mazda MX3 GS with the 1.8l 24V V6. It reminds me a lot of the Scion, actually. The deal with the Mazda though is you drop in the 2.5l V6 from a Probe/MX6/626 and go from 130hp to 170.

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