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Automotive News & Views What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?
8700 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 7:41 PM
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 10, 2007 1:43 pm) The dealer that my family buys from had four EVOs on the lot at the time; Nov '06. It was nice, just base Red EVO. I'm thinking they were selling it that low just to get rid of it or maybe it was '05?? I know if I went in there; they would of gotten me even more of a deal. Again, big brother would of killed me and I would of gotten my license taken away within few months for street racing. Cause I know all the locals in their rice burner Civics would challange me and being natural competitive I would of been stupid enough to go for it. It's bad enough with my tC. I get cops staring all the time when I get off of work at 3:30-4:00 am...I'm not even doing 10 over and they still speed up to me. Is Mitsu has plans bringing back the Ralliart Lancer for '08? Cause I'm wondering what Toyota has plans with the replacement of Scion tC? I heard rumors about a Scion xR; a four door sporty, that is Rally insipired to take over in '09? Maybe Toyota's idea for the Ralliart Lancer competitor? tC has been competitor for '04-'06 Ralliarts. I remember my brother comparing the tC's VVT-i with Ralliart Lancer's MIVEC when I let him drive it couple of times. Same power.
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Replying to: andeet (Dec 11, 2007 6:13 am) I would think the Camry drivetrain and slushbox would keep that to a minimum.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 11, 2007 6:25 am) There are aftermarket turbos that run for seven grand that could make stock tCs to 310. I'm not that crazy to buy one cause that tC will be hard to keep down on speed. |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 10, 2007 4:58 am) Oh I see yeah, no way would I drive in my area without snow tires on any car including AWD. I prefer Nokian tires and wouldn't swap them out for anything else! Not much you can do about the other idjits on the road. Most SUV drivers only care when their insurance company won't pay up for their bad driving or when they have to pump gas. I'm not opposed to SUV's for people who need them, but being in an SUV doesn't guarantee safety. In the snow and ice not much helps. I wonder how a Mazdaspeed 3 will do in the snow.  The STI looks great but hard to justify the extra $$$$! The MINI looks great but also has issues especially with the RFT's. All the good choices are coming out next year! Sham I can't wait. 
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 11, 2007 6:25 am)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Dec 11, 2007 9:48 am) |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 11, 2007 10:19 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 11, 2007 10:19 am)  Would you rather have MX-5 or Mazda6's motor in that Scion?
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Replying to: dromedarius (Dec 11, 2007 10:35 am) |
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Replying to: robertsmx (Dec 11, 2007 12:35 pm) I'm pretty sure we are the same age, actually. Would you rather have MX-5 or Mazda6's motor in that Scion? How about a MazdaSpeed3 engine? Or a '92-95 Toyota MR2/Clica All-Trac Turbo engine, back when Toyota used to make sports cars? Maybe an SR20DET out of a Sunny or Silvia. Basically you have a sub-compact with a small, hard to access back seat that is about as fast as my 4 cylinder Accord (not that it isn't a snooze-fest). It handles about the same and looks like roughly the same mileage. One of the used cars I was looking at to commute with was a Mazda MX3 GS with the 1.8l 24V V6. It reminds me a lot of the Scion, actually. The deal with the Mazda though is you drop in the 2.5l V6 from a Probe/MX6/626 and go from 130hp to 170.
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