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Automotive News & Views What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 09, 2007 3:49 pm) Our AWD wagon and FWD sedan will stay parked until the ice melts in SE MI. The freeways were fine but our sub-division (and especially our street and driveway) were frightening. I wouldn't want to be out there without snows. |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 09, 2007 4:09 pm) |
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 09, 2007 3:49 pm) No, the Fit is adding about 12 HP because they are switching from the old VTEC engine to the new iVTEC. There will still be a 20 HP gap. The current Fit engine is already an old one and the next generation one is more fuel efficient and on par w/the more powerful Civic engine, which is bigger for a bigger car. So if I were going to travel much and might get caught in the winter at the Very least I would want a 4X4 and a AWD second car. With the snow we got last night I wasn't going anywhere till the ice melted with our FWD sedan. Granted, if one were going to drive a lot in the mountains I would advise AWD. In any case if you are driving places where you transfer case is dragging then you are driving when and where you shouldn't be. And if you shouldn't be driving w/one car you shouldn't be driving w/two. 
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Dec 09, 2007 4:09 pm) Seriously you leave you AWD car at home?!  I mean why do that a decent set of snows and it will tackle anything. Upper New England we have lots of hills and we sure get a lot of snow and I've had RWD cars with good snow tires and no problems. My Rex with snows has gone through weather that stops most SUV's. Now FWD is only good in light snow but with snow tires it's ok as well. Only deep snow is an issue for the subie.
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Subcompact sales up 21% for 11 months ending November this year. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071210/AUTO01/712100330/1148- Compacts down 3% in the same timeframe, full-size pick-ups down some 20%. Hmm, if I wanted to draw spurious conclusions from incomplete data, I wonder what I could come up with here.....?  (Of course, subcompacts are still under 3% of the overall market, but hey, there's only a handful of models on sale so far!)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 09, 2007 10:28 pm) it's banker buddies, gas will continue to get more expensive. I hate to be bailing out greedy bankers. But at least it's getting the bloated unnecessary SUV's off the road. I saw another Suburban upside down yesterday blocking the highway. How symbolic. |
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Replying to: tiff_c (Dec 09, 2007 9:21 pm) The snows are on order. They should be here this week. The RE92s are about half gone so we will put them on the bench for winter and bring them back out in summer. Its not so much I am afraid of losing it in the Subie, (or the Accord, for that matter) but I am totally freaked about some moron in an Explorer (or similar) creaming my Subie and taking out my family.
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on them on the net and in magazine and when it was all said and done the general concensus was that they are generally pretty reliable. shifty said they've improved in the last several years, too(didn't think I would remember you posting that on Edmunds, do ya shifty!!)and that 10 year and 100,000 mile Warranty a la Finbarr O'Neill didn't hurt, either. My Lancer GTS has needed one recall(rear door window sash recall to improve crashworthiness at particular crash impact angles)and it has needed two flat tires repaired in 8 1/2 months of ownership. BTW-I have had some co-workers look me straight in the eye and tell me that my Lancer will last forever. "Forever?", I would ask. "Forever!" was their response. I have had two of them state this and many, many others compliment me on my Lancer GTS package overall. I am someone still learning of Mitsubishi...those comments came the week of the purchase back in March of 2007. I will tell y'all this, I will not hold back in reporting anything and everything about my Lancer GTS for 2008 from Mitsubishi, good or bad. So far I am much more than just pleased with the car. Oh, and andeet, you could have bought a 2006 Mitsubishi EVO IX MR for only $24,000? Whew! I saw one for sale sharing showroom space with the Lancer GTS I ended up buying that was a 6-speed in Silver color selling for $36,000. Brand new but a 2006 model. Don't know if it was an "MR", though. But stevecebu would be interested in that car, if he is gonna make it back to the U.S. anytime soon, too. He is a frequent contributor here on Edmunds over in the Mitsubishi Lancer forums. I think his wife and he were leaning towards a Subie as well but maybe I'll rattle his cage and inquire as to the latest with him. $24,000 sounds like an insider deal and not one for the general public, actually. Do you have inside tracking on deals on new Mitsubishi wheels, andeet?
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 10, 2007 1:43 pm)
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