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Automotive News & Views What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?
8676 messages, Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 1:07 PM
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Replying to: robertsmx (Dec 07, 2007 7:59 am) Is it practical for two people to own two large cars? Is it practical for a small family to own two large cars when one is only used for commuting? There is a large segment of the two car family world that does not need a very large second car. Now as the primary car no its not practical, but as a second commuter its a very good and practical car. |
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Dec 07, 2007 3:12 pm) I think if you put a SMART and a Fit side by side with gas mileages taped to their windows, for the same price, and asked small families to choose, I think the Smart would lose 9 out of 10 times. Either price, or "danger" or "looks" will come into play.
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Replying to: robertsmx (Dec 07, 2007 8:10 am) I am not calling anyone liars but I have to tend to seriously question a few who report numbers much higher than everyone else. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 07, 2007 10:19 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Dec 07, 2007 3:21 pm) I consistently beat EPA in my Scion xA and that has the same engine as a Yaris, and I did get 40 mpg once or twice---but I'd have to report mine as about 34-36 MPG average with *very* fast driving (as in "Shifty, stop, I can't go any faster").
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Replying to: robertsmx (Dec 07, 2007 11:10 am) Because EPA estiments are the closest thing you can get as a constant for this measurement. No two drivers drive exactly the same way. I will most likely get more or less MPG than you depending on how different we drive. Also no two cars are the same, even the same model with the same engine, and will get slightly differing mileage. You driving your Accord and getting X MPG doesn't mean I will get X MPG on an Accord that has the same options.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 07, 2007 1:36 pm) Ha. I work for the state and I feel lucky that I have a chair and not an old milk crate. Now if I can only get them to stop using my work space for storage I will be happy. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 07, 2007 3:15 pm) Remember that we are talking two car families where one car always (or mostly) has one person in it for the commute. The Fit would be ok, but do you really need to spend more money and get less mileage for added space you will never need? I think if you put a SMART and a Fit side by side with gas mileages taped to their windows, for the same price, and asked small families to choose, I think the Smart would lose 9 out of 10 times. But the Smart will be less expensive and lets face it, if people are practical when choosing that second commuter car they will choose the less expensive better mileage car. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 07, 2007 3:25 pm) Well then we are reading different things because the EPA website has, IIRC, 52 people reporting and something like two or three reporting way higher than the EPA estiments.
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