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Automotive News & Views What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?
8653 messages, Last post on Nov 27, 2009 at 6:22 PM
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| SmartForSomeone sells in Japan? I mean, it's cities are crowded and tight for space and the Smart is great for that. So, will they blindly follow their own manufacturers and buy the Yaris, Fit and Suzuki kei-size cars? Probably, but not definitely. Somebody follow that statistic for us in their spare time and I'll get back to you on it, OK? | |
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Replying to: ttai (Dec 06, 2007 8:51 pm) a roof. I would say its more like a ATV or quad with a roof. I think there is a perception that a go-cart handles well, is low to the ground, and eh mid-engined. I think the Fiero/MR2 fit the bill better than the Smart, and the Fiero was originally designed for the same niche market. I had a motorcycle so taking this thing on the freeway is no problem for me. A motorcycle has the ability to maneuver out of trouble and can go from 0-60 in 1/3 the time of the Smart, leaving a lot of options to, as my driving instructor would say, "be somewhere else." |
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Replying to: ttai (Dec 06, 2007 8:51 pm) Its not governmental accounting its basic statistics. In cases like this you become very critical of extreme highs or lows in reporting something like this as abnormalities. People can misremember, calculate wrong, have wrong facts or just outright lie. When something lies way outside the norm, say like everyone reporting between 32 and 36 MPG and someone comes along and reports 42MPG you should look at the 42 with suspect. Either way the Smart does really beat the Yaris by a long shot if it gets what the Canadian website claims. $12K for a car that does everything I need it to do and gets above 40 city sounds like a winner in my book.
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Replying to: robertsmx (Dec 06, 2007 10:26 pm) Per the EPA website the Fit gets 34 Highway. big difference. But we will see when we get the EPA estiments
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 06, 2007 4:17 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Dec 07, 2007 5:03 am) I too think that would be great, unfortunately the Smart isn't that car for me. I think a 3-5 year old VW TDI would be a lot closer for me, especially since the hwy mileage is a bigger factor for me than city.
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Dec 06, 2007 6:59 pm) 
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| 5.9 L/100 km is 39.875 miles per US gallon | |
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 06, 2007 4:17 pm) However, you are 100% wrong saying there is no virtue to making do w/less (which I don't see as a sacrifice anyway). If EVERYONE in the US got 2 MPG better we would be MUCH better off. I don't care what the Chinese do. If they want to purchase more, so be it. If we can cut down on our polution and our dependence on foreign oil not only are we better off, but more importantly our children are as well. I don't like being at the beckon call of dictators who hate us and want to end our way of life. All these people claiming "I can do what I want" won't be able to much longer if we continue to live so frivolously.
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Dec 07, 2007 5:08 am)
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