What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?

9838 messages,  Last post on Feb 07, 2013 at 10:28 PM

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Versa, Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, smart fortwo, MINI Cooper

#9829 of 9838 Re: Yep of all the Mazda's... [iluvmysephia1] by nippononly

Feb 06, 2013 (10:48 pm)

Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 06, 2013 9:37 pm)
Nope it only weighs about 2300 pounds, and the reason it gets such lousy gas mileage is that it is geared for acceleration. It's quite speedy around town. The auto is only a 4-speed, worsening the fuel economy even further if you don't shift for yourself.

#9830 of 9838 Re: Yep of all the Mazda's... [nippononly] by bpizzuti

Feb 07, 2013 (8:26 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Feb 06, 2013 10:48 pm)
Mazda has a 1.6L SkyActiv motor that would be better in there. Not sure if the 6 speed auto tranny would fit but it might.

#9831 of 9838 Re: Yep of all the Mazda's... [bpizzuti] by ateixeira

Feb 07, 2013 (9:08 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Feb 07, 2013 8:26 am)
I'd be all over that for a test drive. On day one.

#9832 of 9838 new Fiat 500 owner? by steve_ HOST

Feb 07, 2013 (10:18 am)

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#9833 of 9838 Re: Yep of all the Mazda's... [bpizzuti] by tifighter

Feb 07, 2013 (10:40 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Feb 07, 2013 8:26 am)
Yeah, you'd think if they can fit a 6AT in the Miata...

#9834 of 9838 Re: Yep of all the Mazda's... [tifighter] by ateixeira

Feb 07, 2013 (11:01 am)

Replying to: tifighter (Feb 07, 2013 10:40 am)
With paddles, even.
 
And it's a good auto - at the Zoom Zoom Live event the automatics were lapping quicker than the sticks.

#9835 of 9838 Re: Yep of all the Mazda's... [tifighter] by andre1969

Feb 07, 2013 (11:19 am)

Replying to: tifighter (Feb 07, 2013 10:40 am)
Yeah, you'd think if they can fit a 6AT in the Miata...
 
But, I wonder if there's enough room under the hood of a Mazda2 for a 6-speed automatic to fit sideways? At least, I'm presuming a 6-speed would take up more space than a 4-speed, but could be wrong.
 
Another thing to consider is that, there are several aspects to an economy car. There's good fuel economy, and a cheap base price. They might be able to get better economy out of a Mazda2 with a 6-speed auto, but would the improved fuel economy offset the increased cost?
 
And, comparing the Mazda2 to its peers, its 28/34 rating isn't too bad. The Yaris is a touch better, at 30/36. The Versa, with the 4-speed auto, is 26/35. However, with the CVT it's 31/40. The Fit is 28/35 with the 5-speed auto, or 27/33 with the "S5" auto.

#9836 of 9838 MINI buyers? Know anyone? by kirstie_h HOST

Feb 07, 2013 (4:23 pm)

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#9837 of 9838 Re: Yep of all the Mazda's... [andre1969] by bpizzuti

Feb 07, 2013 (4:53 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 07, 2013 11:19 am)
It should really fit unless the problem is that it doesn't fit vertically.

#9838 of 9838 Why... by iluvmysephia1

Feb 07, 2013 (10:28 pm)

gear the Mazda2 for acceleration? Who cares about going fast in a Mazda2? How goofy. The car is just going to be slow no matter what they do, unless of course they turbo-charge it.
 
How about ghastly mileage being more of a concern? If I bought one I'd drive it hard if I wanted, putz around like a Grandpa in town if I wanted. I'd have a ball with the thing, gear-head bewazzled or not.
 
But a car like this should get at least 40 mpg, it's ridiculous that it doesn't. Oh well. Still my favorite Mazda by a long George Bush drive. Now watch this drive!
 

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