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Toyota Camry, Hybrid Cars
#57 of 3214 Re: Hybrid Camry [john1701a] Performance [midnightcowboy] [kdhspyder]
Jan 19, 2006 (4:16 pm)
Sorry kdh but I don't think Toyota has any plans to retire the Prius. Between the yearly dealer meetings, talks with Jim Press and others as well as numerous other meetings I have never heard a mention of that - ever.
I agree with you that it is the prophet but I think that every time Toyota introduces new Hybrid technology in future - they are probably working on the 3rd or maybe 4th generation as I write this - it will always start with the Prius and make it's way to the other models. I have been told by the powers to be at Toyota that the Hybrid option will be less than $1000 by 2010 and offered on every model they make. The Prius helps them achive that with it's volume.
#58 of 3214 Re: Camry hybrid [kdhspyder]
Jan 19, 2006 (5:40 pm)
The first TCH's are due here in May June from Japan. I understand that KY will be online ind 4th Qtr ramping up to ??? Initial volume projections are ~ 4000 units monthly.
Just curious but will the TCH that will be offered during spring be from Japan?
If I am not mistaken are "Made in Japan" Camrys different from the US made Camrys ? Especially in terms of dimensions(Japanese Camrys are smaller) and different interior designs.
#59 of 3214 Re: Hybrid Camry [john1701a] Performance [midnightcowboy] [kdhspyder] [toyotamover]
Jan 19, 2006 (5:59 pm)
Launch vehicle for new technology makes sense.. But I think the emphasis from here on will be the Camry as it always is. If Prius sales slump in favor of the Camry, Oh well...
I didnt mean to imply that the Prius was done after this model. Another iteration certainly seems likely but the Camry always is the heart of the product line and IMO the emphasis will be there.
I also own an MR2 which as you know was allowed to retire until a later date.
#60 of 3214 Camry platform
Jan 19, 2006 (6:02 pm)
I've read conflicting information about the platform being used for the 2007 Camry.
On the one hand, it seems like the 2007 model should still be based on the existing 2002-2006 model. On the other hand, I've heard it's based on a new "global platform" from which the 2006 Avalon came.
Anyone know which one of these is right?
#61 of 3214 Re: Camry hybrid [dewey]
Jan 19, 2006 (6:06 pm)
If I am not mistaken are "Made in Japan" Camrys different from the US made Camrys ?
There was a perception at one time that the Camry's made in Japan were 'better'. I think that's been put to bed by now. Smaller no.. unless you were joshing..
#62 of 3214 Re: Camry platform [cammer2]
Jan 19, 2006 (7:44 pm)
The new Camry is definitely not based on the existing 02-06 platform.
Does that mean the new Camry shares its platform with the 06 Avalon? I am not sure?
#63 of 3214 Re: Camry platform [dewey]
Jan 19, 2006 (7:52 pm)
Officially they said only that it's a new platform with a 2" longer wheelbase. Whether that is the Avalon platform or not has not been stated.
#64 of 3214 Toyota Camry Preliminary Specs
Jan 20, 2006 (8:41 am)
CAMRY HYBRID PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS ENGINE
Gasoline Engine Type 2.4-liter, 4-cylinder, aluminum alloy block with aluminum alloy head Bore and Stroke 3.48 x 3.78 inches
Displacement 2,362 cc Expansion Ratio 12.5:1
Valve Train Twin-cam, 4-valve/cylinder with VVT-i Horsepower (SAE Net)* 147 horsepower 6,000 rpm
Torque* 138 lb-ft 4,400 rpm Recommended Fuel Regular unleaded
Emission Control AT-PZEV ELECTRIC MOTOR/GENERATOR/POWER STORAGE
Motor Type Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motor Electric Motor Power Output 105 kW/4,500 RPM
Torque 199 lb.-ft. 0-1,500 RPM Battery Type Nickel-Metal Hydride (150 lbs)
Nominal Voltage 244.8 V (204 cells, 1.2V/cells) Transmission Electronic Controlled Continuously variable transmission
Capacity 6.5 ampere hour Battery Peak Horsepower Rating 45 horsepower
System Voltage 650 volts maximum COMBINED
Hybrid System Net Horsepower 192 horsepower * The Society of Automotive Engineers revised Standard J1349, which sets forth the protocol for testing horsepower and torque as of January, 2005. The revision specifies that certain equipment be installed on the engine and operating at the time of testing, as well as the use of the manufacturer required grade of fuel during the test. Presumably, all manufacturers will be using the revised Standard for future tests. Toyota decided to retest most of its engines using the new protocol this year. Consequently, the horsepower and torque ratings for many of our vehicles declined this year. Any changes in horsepower and torque ratings based on the implementation of the new testing protocol, however, have no impact on actual engine performance.
CAMRY HYBRID PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS SUSPENSION
Front Independent MacPherson strut suspension with stabilizer bar Rear Independent dual-link with stabilizer bar
Type Electronically Controlled Brake system (ECB) Front Ventilated front disc (hydraulic with power assist) with standard Anti-Lock Brake (ABS) system and integrated regenerative brake system Front Diameter 11.65 inches Rear Solid disc (hydraulic with power assist) with standard Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) and integrated regenerative brake system Rear Diameter 11.06 inches Parking Foot pedal type
Type Electric power-assist rack-and-pinion Turning circle 36.1feet (11 meters)
TIRES AND WHEELS
Wheel size 6.5 x 16 inches Type and Material Aluminum alloy
Tire Size P215/60 R16 Tire Type All-season
Spare Temporary CAPACITIES
Fuel Tank 17.1 gallons
CAMRY HYBRID PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS EXTERIOR DIMENSIONS (inches)
Wheelbase 109.3 Overall Length 189.2
Overall Width 71.7 Overall Height 57.5
Tread Width (front/rear) 62.0/61.6 Minimum Ground Clearance 5.9
Coefficient of Drag 0.27 INTERIOR DIMENSIONS (inches)
Headroom (front/rear) 38.8/37.8 Legroom (front/rear) 41.6/38.3
Shoulder Room (front/rear) 57.8/56.7 Hip Room (front/rear) 54.6/53.9
EPA Passenger Volume 101.4 cubic feet EPA ESTIMATED FUEL ECONOMY* (mpg)
City/highway/combined 43/37/40 *Actual mileage may vary VEHICLE MASS (lbs)
Curb Weight 3,637
CAMRY HYBRID PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS SAFETY AND SECURITY FEATURES
Driver and front passenger advanced airbags Front and rear side curtain airbags, driver and front passenger seat-mounted side airbags and driver’s knee airbag
Side-impact door beams Three-point seatbelts for all seating positions, Emergency Locking Retractors (ELR) on driver’s belt, Automatic/Emergency Locking Retractors (ALR/ELR) on all passenger seatbelts; three-point front seatbelts with adjustable shoulder anchors Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) and Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) Vehicle Dynamic Integrated Management (VDIM) Child protector rear door locks ISOFIX CRS top tether anchor brackets and ISOFIX CRS anchor attachments Daytime running lights BASIC LIMITED WARRANTY COVERAGE
3-year/36,000-mile Comprehensive 5-year/60,000-mile Powertrain
5-year/unlimited-mileage Corrosion Perforation 8-year/100,000-mile Hybrid-related Component Coverage
15-year/150,000-mile Hybrid-related Component Coverage (applicable states are: CA, MA, NY, NJ, VT, CT, ME, NH and RI) with the exception of the hybrid battery. The hybrid battery is warranted for 10 years/150,000 miles.
Jan 20, 2006 (8:48 am)
STANDARD FEATURES-CAMRY HYBRID PRELIMINARY
•P215/60 R16 tires with 16-inch alloy wheels
•Temporary spare tire
•Tire pressure monitor system
•Halogen headlamps with auto on/off feature
•Daytime running lights
•Smart Entry with push button start
•Dual color-keyed power outside mirrors
• Heated outside mirrors
•Eight-way power driver seat and four-way manual passenger seat
•Power door locks with anti-lockout feature
•Power windows with driver’s auto-down
• Optitron meters
•Fabric seat and door trim
•Premium AM/FM/six-disc CD changer MP3/WMA compatible with
Bluetooth™ with eight speakers, 440 watts
•Auto-dimming electrochromic rearview mirror with compass
•Dual zone climate control air conditioner with air filter (electric)
•Leather wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
• Cruise control
•Tilt steering wheel with audio/Bluetooth™/climate control
•Manual telescopic steering wheel
• Courtesy lamp
• Maintenance indicator
•Driver and front passenger advanced airbags
•Seat-mounted side airbags
•Side curtain airbags
•Driver’s knee airbag
•Anti-lock Braking System (ABS)
•Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM)
•Rear center headrests
• Engine immobilizer
•Chrome exhaust tip
•Rear disc brake (regenerative)
• Cargo net
•Audio auxiliary jack
• Multi-informational display
•60/40 split fold-down rear seat
#66 of 3214 Re: Hybrid Camry [john1701a] and the Prius knowledge gained.
Jan 20, 2006 (11:46 am)
" John is as fully aware of the raison d'etre for the Prius as anyone. He was one of the first and a good source of information since before the '04's launched. "
You are right, now that I think about it, I did learn a lot of Prius information from John1701A in the Prius 2004+ forum. John cleared up a lot of my misunderstndings
A couple of examples:
In message #2701, I learned that instead of dusk sensing autolights the Prius had updated thier auto lights to a simplier off/on switch. I had always thought before that that was auto-off and not automatic lights. But John cleared up my misunderstanding.
In message #3830, I learned that the Prius did not have either transmission or gears. Instead of gears the Prius has a power-split-device. Before I had incorrectly thought that a transmssion was used to connect the power of the engine to the turning motion of wheels through gears (plantary in the case of the Prius). But John cleared up my misunderstanding.
The Prius was a good car, but the replacement TCH (Toyota Camry Hybrid) will be much better.