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Re: Hybrid Camry [john1701a] Performance [midnightcowboy] by dewey
Jan 19, 2006 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jan 18, 2006 2:22 pm)

Yes Midnightcowbody you have made your point quite well about what performance is. Your definition is similar to mine and I am not here to dispute them.
 
BUT if I wanted performance/handling I would choose among the many rear wheel drive sports sedan/coupes that are currently available.
 
The current and soon to be selection of hybrids are not what I would call performance cars. The new hybrids from Lexus (LS and GS) are more slushbox luxury cruisers than real sport sedans. The hybrid Honda Accord driving dynamics are hindered by its front wheel drive platform. And all hybrids are not great in handling since they are bogged down by their extra weight.
 
The reason I am buying the Camry hybrid is not because of my wants(performance/handling) but because of my family needs(roomy, fuel efficient, reliable).
 
Also I am a great admirer of the Toyota HSD system and the company's efforts in cutting emissions/fuel consumption.
 
My current BMW 3 series is great for solo driving but the great driving experience becomes NIL when I have my children complaining about a lack of space and bangling my seat with their legs.
 
That is why I need two different cars. The Camry to satisfy my needs and the BMW to satisfy my wants.
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Re: yet to be determined, but probably will be added [larsb] by otis1
Jan 19, 2006 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 19, 2006 7:52 am)

In a related topic, it will be VERY interesting to see how Toyota hybrid sales fare AFTER the 60K is gone and the tax credit is no longer an incentive for 2006 buyers.
 
the tax credit gets phased out, 50% then 25%. so even TCH buyers will still benefit from some form of the tax credit. when the tax credit is completely phased out (probably sometime after Q3 2007), we'll start seeing incentives on some of the older hybrids because competition from other manufacturers will step up- and those other manufacturers will have the added benefit of the tax credit since they are "behind" in sales compared to toyota.
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Re: TCH on ebay [lanceq] by larsb
Jan 19, 2006 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: lanceq (Jan 19, 2006 7:29 am)

We are yet to know if the IRS will add the 2007 TCH to the list of 2006 tax credit hybrid vehicles.
 
They DID DO SO with the HAH and the FEH in mid-year, so they will probably add the TCH also, based on what they have done in the past.
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Re: Hybrid Camry [otis1] by muskyfever
Jan 19, 2006 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: otis1 (Jan 19, 2006 9:06 am)

After looking at the links and the pictures of the new Camry Hybrid all I can say is WOW!!
 
A car that big getting 45mpg? Unreal! It looks inbetween a Lexus and a Maxima.
 
I might be trading in my 05' for an 07'.
 
Toyota destroys the competition again.
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Re: Hybrid Camry [muskyfever] -the Prius slayer! by midnightcowboy
Jan 19, 2006 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: muskyfever (Jan 19, 2006 9:14 am)

Muskyfever:
 
I agree the 2007 Camry Hybrid is wow! And I agree with Dewey is is a good compromise and provides some performance/sportiness.
 
Muskyfever said: "Toyota destroys the competition again."
 
Again I agree, but I also think that the TCH sales will have a significant impact on Prius sales. Whether toyota intended it or not one of the TCH's main competitors, IMO, is the Prius. Some people are saying they are not comaprable because the THC will cost more, is bigger, has less milaeage, and most important doesn't look odd and make the "I'm Green" statement boldly enough. I contend, that if you asked the average person, very few would know what a Prius was or what a "green" car was.
 
Summary: the THC ( Toyota Hybrid Camry) is a WINNER!
 
Listen please, I like your HSD products, but I need them packaged differently with a manual transmission.
 
YMMV,
 
MidCow
 
P.S.- I too once had a 3 series, a 98 M3 sedan and it was very tight on space and high on maintenance
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2006 Superbowl Ad for the Camry Hybrid by dewey
Jan 19, 2006 (1:31 pm)
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Hybird Camry Superbowl Advertisement
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Re: Camry hybrid [greendog] by kdhspyder
Jan 19, 2006 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: greendog (Jan 16, 2006 8:18 pm)

The first TCH's are due here in May June from Japan. I understand that KY will be online ind 4th Qtr ramping up to ??? Initial volume projections are ~ 4000 units monthly.
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Re: Easy Predicition [JBaumgart] by kdhspyder
Jan 19, 2006 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: JBaumgart (Jan 17, 2006 8:18 am)

Why not in 3 yrs when the RAV is due for an updating. It's the same engine. Also the same engine as in the Highlander which is due for a remodel this time next year.
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Re: Hybrid Camry [john1701a] Performance [midnightcowboy] by kdhspyder
Jan 19, 2006 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jan 18, 2006 2:22 pm)

Your P.S.
 
IMO, back in the mid 90's Toyota had already planned the Prius' demise. It was part and parcel of the overall strategy. Prius as you know is a Latin verb, 'to go before'. Why use a Latin verb for a Japanese vehicle? The vehicle was intended as a launch platform for hybrid technology for the US and World markets. It was a prophet if you will.
 
It will always appeal to the geeks and innovators, but the Camry ( and maybe Highlander/Corolla ) were always the target vehicles for this technology.
 
The Prius will retire gracefully in a while and the Camry will make Hybrid technology commonplace. 4c ICE, Hybrid or V6 ICE which do you prefer?
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Re: Hybrid Camry [john1701a] Performance [midnightcowboy] [kdhspyder] by midnightcowboy
Jan 19, 2006 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 19, 2006 2:18 pm)

kdhspyder said:
"The Prius will retire gracefully in a while and the Camry will make Hybrid technology commonplace. 4c ICE, Hybrid or V6 ICE which do you prefer? "
 
I would prefer the Hybrid with a 6-speed manual transmission! It could then be a replacement for my wife's 2000 Avalon, which has been a great car.
 
Cheers,
 
MidCow
 
P.S.- Someone is going to have to break the news to John1701A about the demise of the Prius

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