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Replying to: james99 (Jul 06, 2008 12:07 pm) |
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Replying to: james99 (Jul 06, 2008 12:07 pm)  I looked at the US website and liked to trunk lip, but the spoiler is just plain ugly (IMO).
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Replying to: cdn_tch (Jul 06, 2008 2:40 pm) |
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Replying to: gerrythegreat (Jul 06, 2008 11:39 am) |
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just got my 09 TCH 3 weeks ago, and while I do use the electronic data display, I'm not really in love with the leather quality. My dealer had a trunk lip as an option, but I figured it couldn't help the mileage (and it was ridiculously expensive for what it is) I bought mine in Burlington, Ontario. The price difference between the base and the Nav model was $2,800. Go back to you dealer and ask for a better price! After a few weeks, I don't use the data display much, because I have learned how to drive it to maximize my mileage (I've averaged 50 mpg so far). I do use the GPS daily, but Toyotas DVD is hopelessly out of date. Houses that have been built for 3 years are not in the database, and the new highway that opened in Hamilton last year (and has been on the books for at least 10 years) isn't in it. They say a new one is coming out in the fall, but it will be $300.00. That burns me! If I did it again, I'm not sure I woud get the Nav. I can get a really good GPS for under $500.00 and use it in my other vehicle, and the leather is so-so looking and feeling. |
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Replying to: toyofan5 (Feb 18, 2008 2:41 pm) Also, after starting the car the gas engine usually kicks in within seconds, even with the A/C off. This occurs even if the traction battery shows as over half-full. Is this normal? If I leave it idling it will shut-off for awhile and then come back on. The gas engine is only consistently OFF when coasting or usually after coming to a stop at a light. Does all of this sound normal, or should it stay electric-only when under 20mph unless you are accelerating hard? I've read stuff indicating it should be off when stopped or going under 20mph. I like the car alot, but I'm disappointed in some of the interior fit and finish. If you look close at all, the plastics on the door have bad "cuts" in some spots with rough edges, and the soft plastic is cut jagged in some spots. It is like this on two doors; the others are fine. I'm probably going to take it into the dealership, but is this typical? Thanks for any info. |
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Replying to: lferris (Aug 13, 2008 9:56 pm) Also, after starting the car the gas engine usually kicks in within seconds, even with the A/C off. This occurs even if the traction battery shows as over half-full. Is this normal? If I leave it idling it will shut-off for awhile and then come back on. The gas engine is only consistently OFF when coasting or usually after coming to a stop at a light. That all sounds normal to me. Except maybe the high-pitched noises for 5 minutes. Is it really 5 minutes or less than one minute if you actually time it rather than estimating? |
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agree that the noises/engine changing to gas vs electric is normal sorry about your finish inside--ours which we bought in May has good quality even if it is a beige-grey plastic-- our friend bought a V6 top of the line and she has the wood-grain film--looks nice now--don't know if it is strong enough to resist normal wear/tear usage for years... |
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Replying to: lferris (Aug 13, 2008 9:56 pm) Yes all of this is normal in the HSD system. There is always a 10 sec period at startup ( it's called phase 0 or zone 0 in the Prius boards ). Do a search on PriusChat.com I haven't been given a good explanation of what occurs during those 10 sec but my supposition is that MG1 draws some power off the traction battery to get the fluids in the ICE flowing and pumping without any fuel being pumped into the cylinders. Then the plugs begin to fire and the ICE kicks in. If you're still sitting in place the ICE 'repays the juice' borrowed from the traction battery then it shuts off after 30-60 sec. All quite normal and by design. While driving don't worry at all about when the ICE is running or isn't running. The computer will take care of everything. The best thing you can do to induce the ICE to shutdown is take your foot off the pedal as often as possible and coast for as long as possible without blocking traffic. Anticipate having to stop as early as possible and coast for as long as possible. Otherwise the computer knows what's best. BTW, the correct procedure for getting away from a dead stop is NOT to crawl away from a light or stop sign in order to try to keep it on battery power. This was thought to be correct in the first years. The hypermilers found in their playing around that it's much more efficient just to accelerate normally or even quickly up to 'traffic speed' then let off the pedal to induce the ICE to turn off while coasting for as long as possible ( Pulse and Glide ). When you have a fully charged battery and you're in slow moving conditions or in your neighborhood where the speed limit is probably 25 mph then just keep your foot lightly on the pedal ( 'Feathering' ) which will keep the batter/e-motor engaged while not having the ICE turn on. You can drive a surprisingly long time like this, maybe as much as a mile until the battery draws down then the ICE will kick in.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Aug 14, 2008 7:14 am) It has kind of clicked to me while driving that the best thing for my average mileage is to get up to speed by accelerating normally, then drive steady, and finally coast as early as possible (but like you said, without being ridiculous and blocking traffic). My next question was going to be "is it normal for the battery to drain so quickly -- or is mine not holding the charge?" It sounds normal. Obviously moving a 3500lbs car takes a lot of juice. Does that mean all-electric cars will use huge batteries, or do those use a different type of battery?
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