Last post on Feb 25, 2013 at 8:28 PM
You are in the Toyota Camry Hybrid
What is this discussion about?
Toyota Camry, Hybrid Cars
May 02, 2007 (5:20 pm)
While I love my TCH, I have a few gripes about it.
Gripe #1: That darn climate control system. In the warmer months, if Auto is off, the recirc feature automatically comes on and makes the cabin uncomfortably humid. In the colder months, if auto is off, the darn thing blasts hot air in the cabin when you set the temp to 65. Turn it down 1 degree, and it brings in cold winter air. My wife does not like the auto feature because you don't have control over the fan speed. You cannot win with this system. I prefer 3 control knobs: 1 for fan speed, 1 for temp, and 1 for ducts. I learned my lesson. On a plus note, the Auto Climate system works quite well on trips.
Gripe #2: The stability control feature. It blinks and beeps to tell you when you're slipping. I know when I am slipping, thank you. The visual and aural indicator distracts me from keeping my eyes on the road. I don't know of a way to turn it off.
Gripe 3: The Auto dimming rear view mirror. I wish the default setting was OFF and not ON. Most times I would rather see the lights in my rear view at full illumination. Once in a while I prefer to dim it.
Gripe 4: The visor comes down too far and obstructs my view. I am unable to push it flush with the windshield.
Gripe 5: I never use the controls on my steering wheel because they are too user unfriendly. You either have to feel for the controls or look down to use them. I have a 2004 Sienna where the steering wheel controls are much more intuitive.
Gripe #6: By now you are convinced that I am a whiner. That's not usually the case. But my last gripe is on the seatbelts. Why the aural indicator? Isn't the visual one enough? There are occasions where we unbuckle temporarily and this thing beeps to high heaven. How do I turn that off?
Summing this up, the Human Factors work on this car is not what I am accustomed to on a Toyota. My 99 Camry and 04 Sienna are much kinder to the user.
#2983 of 3214 Re: TCH Gripes [bloescha]
May 02, 2007 (5:34 pm)
Some good news!
Gripe#1. The auto temp control can be set to several different options by your dealer. I don't remember all of the possible settings, but I know that turning off the "default to recirc" can be changed to give you manual control of recirc or fresh air. I had this done, and it made a HUGE difference. See ToyotaiGuide.com for a list of dealer setable options. Once you configure it to your model, Click on "other features", then "customizable electronic features"
Gripe #3 I believe that the auto dimming feature can be turned off. I don't hav teh manual handy, but I remember it saying something about that. Probably camn view the manual at the above mentioned web site also.
Gripe #6. The seatbelt alarm can be disabled by the dealer also...see the above mentioned website.
I hope this helps! At least 3 of your gripes can be resolved.
#2984 of 3214 Re: TCH Gripes [jbollt]
May 03, 2007 (4:47 am)
Thanks. It appears some improvements can be made to the seatbelt and the climate system.
#2985 of 3214 Smart key question (again)
May 03, 2007 (8:14 am)
By design, our Smart Key opens only the driver door when you grasp the driver door first (it opens all doors if you grasp the passenger door first). Is there a way to have SmartKey unlock all doors when grasping the driver door first? (My Toyota service guy says no, but I'd love to prove him wrong. )
#2986 of 3214 Re: Smart key question (again) [berg32]
May 03, 2007 (8:44 am)
"...Is there a way to have SmartKey unlock all doors when grasping the driver door first? (My Toyota service guy says no, but I'd love to prove him wrong. ) ..."
Yes...see page 40 in your manual, or go here...ToyotaiGuide.com
Once you configure it to your model, Click on "keys and doors", then "smart key" it will give you directions how to change the settings..I did it to mine.
#2987 of 3214 Re: TCH Gripes [jbollt]
May 03, 2007 (10:40 am)
Thank you, jbollt, for some very useful information.
The ways of the auto climate system made little sense to me. The a/c compressor turns on automatically no matter what the temperature. It overrides airflow settings and fan speeds, etc. I find myself fiddling with settings far more than any manual system I've had.
Also, the seatbelt warning buzzer will be turned off. Hooray!
#2988 of 3214 2007 Camry - I'm not satisfied
May 03, 2007 (1:58 pm)
To those looking to buy a 2007, let it be known that I purchased one and I'm not happy. I bought a 4-cylinder, manual transmission because I don't drive like a maniac, but do want some horsepower there when I need it.
I live in the DC area, and once when I tried to merge into traffic about two months after I purchased it (the first time I had to punch it), I couldn't get the car to move fast enough. I was almost rear-ended with my three kids in the back seat.
If you are trying to come off the line, it hesitates badly. I took it to the dealer and they said there isn't anything wrong with it and that it meets Toyota's specs. We test drove a similar model and it drove better.
I told them to fix it and said it met specs. If I wasn't happy I could go through an arbitrator.
Thanks Toyota and Koons Toyota of Tyson's for making me make an expensive mistake! Never again. I suggest anyone thinking about buying this car to Google what people are saying about this car. I wish I did because there are a lot of unsatisfied 2007 Camry owners - I based my purchase on their reputation.
Now excuse me, I have to place this car on Cars.com to sell it.
#2989 of 3214 Re: Smart key question (again) [jbollt]
May 03, 2007 (2:05 pm)
Thank you jbolt; my wife is delighted with this new setting.
#2990 of 3214 Re: TCH Gripes [bloescha]
May 03, 2007 (2:15 pm)
Wow ... Well I can't disagree with your statement in gripe #6, sentence 1.
#2991 of 3214 Re: 2007 Camry - I'm not satisfied [george75]
May 03, 2007 (2:20 pm)
You might want to post your thoughts on the regular Camry board. Your comments aren't applicable to the CVT-equipped hybrid version.
Yep, some people are displeased with the apparent lag in response of 4cyl auto transmission. Your comments are the first I've read about the manual version also having the problem.
The software is programed for maximum fuel mileage and minimum pollution, definitely not for "punching it." Given this year's record Camry sales, it looks like most people are happy with the way it works.