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#224 of 3214 After reading the April 2006 MOTOR TREND... by raychuang00

Mar 06, 2006 (7:49 pm)

...It appears that the MT editors were pleasantly surprised by the 2007 Camry Hybrid. While of course it doesn't have neck-snapping performance (that's not the point of the Hybrid Synergy Drive system), MT editors were surprised that it didn't take much work to get over 35 mpg in steady driving.
 
I think Toyota's hybrid system is still by far the best, mostly because of its generously powerful electric motor. Small wonder why Toyota is spending a lot of money to dramatically reduce the cost of Hybrid Synergy Drive, which means we could see a hybrid Corolla when the next-generation Corolla arrives in Spring 2007 as a 2008 model.

#225 of 3214 Re: After reading the April 2006 MOTOR TREND... [raychuang00] by kdhspyder

Mar 06, 2006 (10:11 pm)

Replying to: raychuang00 (Mar 06, 2006 7:49 pm)
I had the same thought ray..
 
It makes perfect sense with the HCH doing well. If a Corolla hybrid were in the $20-$21K range with significantly lower costs it could be the premium version of the Corolla while getting realworld 50-60 mpg averages.
 
It also serves the purpose of not having to change the 1.8L used in the CE, LE and S models. Putting the 1.5L + HSD as the premium powertrain in such a light vehicle woul be the upgrade.
 
Next year or soon thereafter add the Sienna hybrid and IMO change the Highlander to a 2.4L+HSD hybrid and they have just about accomplished what the goal was of making a hybrid option for every vehicle class.

#226 of 3214 Re: Hybrid Features compared to XLE 4 cyl. [njerald] by mary99

Mar 07, 2006 (7:11 am)

Replying to: njerald (Mar 03, 2006 9:31 pm)
"Hybrid Feature Advantages
  
Smart Key
Better Fuel Economy
Moonroof not required - Save $ and better headroom
LED Tailights
Blue Tinted Headlights
No stabilty/Traction Control option required
  
Are there others of any consequence that I missed?"
 
Well, there is the lower emissions, of course!
 
That Consumer Reports article has some faulty analysis. CR is investigating it now. You can't add in both the price premium AND the increase in depreciation, unless they really are saying the RX400H will be selling for $6300 LESS than the non-hybrid in 5 years, which I don't think is likely. If you take out the faulty variables, the hybrids win, and that is without a gas price hike forecast, I believe. It also isn't accounting for the value of the other features that are included standard with the hybrid models.

#227 of 3214 Re: Hybrid Features compared to XLE 4 cyl. [mary99] by mary99

Mar 07, 2006 (7:43 am)

Replying to: mary99 (Mar 07, 2006 7:11 am)
I just went and re-read the article. They are considering gas price increases. There are other problems in that chart, though, besides the depreciation line.

#228 of 3214 Re: After reading the April 2006 MOTOR TREND... [kdhspyder] by raychuang00

Mar 07, 2006 (8:40 am)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 06, 2006 10:11 pm)
Next year or soon thereafter add the Sienna hybrid and IMO change the Highlander to a 2.4L+HSD hybrid and they have just about accomplished what the goal was of making a hybrid option for every vehicle class.
 
I think Toyota is trying to work its hardest to dramatically reduce the cost of Hybrid Synergy Drive. If Toyota can do that and also use the next-generation of lithium-ion batteries that will use far smaller battery packs, I wouldn't be surprised that Toyota might just put the Hybrid Synergy Drive into the Sienna with a year. The smaller battery pack would also make it far easier for Toyota to incorporate HSD into the next-generation Corolla due by this time in 2007.

#229 of 3214 Re: Hybrid Features compared to XLE 4 cyl. [mary99] by midnightcowboy

Mar 07, 2006 (2:23 pm)

Replying to: mary99 (Mar 07, 2006 7:11 am)
mary99 said:
 
"Hybrid Feature Advantages
 
... Moonroof not required - Save $ and better headroom "
H'mm I never heard the lack of a feature, i.e. moonroof, be list as an advantage!
 
Are you in politics ?
 
Cheers,
 
MidCow
 
P.S.- I think CR reaserached and is aware of exactly what they wrote

#230 of 3214 Re: Hybrid Features compared to XLE 4 cyl. [midnightcowboy] by njerald

Mar 07, 2006 (3:59 pm)

Replying to: midnightcowboy (Mar 07, 2006 2:23 pm)
Not in politics.
 
The hybrid has a moonroof as an option.
 
I don't want the moonroof so don't have to pay for a feature that I don't want. That will keep the price closer to the XLE.
 
That is an advantage!!!!!!!! Think about it!!!

#231 of 3214 Option Changes by spectrablue

Mar 07, 2006 (5:33 pm)

Looks like Toyota changed their mind on an option for the Toyota Camry Hybrid (TCH)...Heated Outside Mirrors.
 
According to the option list on Toyota.com:
http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicles/2007/camry/options.pdf or http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicles/2007/camry/features.pdf
the heated outside mirrors are now optional or included in the "Comfort & Convenience Package" which also includes heating for the seats, but must be purchased with the "Leather Package"
 
The original press release concerning features listed the heated mirrors as standard:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/presstxt/2007toyotakit/2007CamryHybrid_f.pdf
of course, to Toyota's credit, this initial information was listed as "preliminary."

#232 of 3214 Re: After reading the April 2006 MOTOR TREND... [raychuang00] by stevedebi

Mar 07, 2006 (5:36 pm)

Replying to: raychuang00 (Mar 06, 2006 7:49 pm)
"Small wonder why Toyota is spending a lot of money to dramatically reduce the cost of Hybrid Synergy Drive, which means we could see a hybrid Corolla when the next-generation Corolla arrives in Spring 2007 as a 2008 model."
 
Such a car would directly compete with the Prius in size. If they produce it, there is no point to the Prius.

#233 of 3214 Re: After reading the April 2006 MOTOR TREND... [stevedebi] by kdhspyder

Mar 07, 2006 (6:46 pm)

Replying to: stevedebi (Mar 07, 2006 5:36 pm)
I thought so originally as well. But after some input here and elsewhere the 2008 Prius is set already and the intention as I understand is to use the Prius as a launch platform for advanced features; e.g. SKS, BT, HSD, etc.
 
In addition if the HSD Corolla came in ~ $18-21000 then the Prius goes from $22-28K and the Camry from $26-31K. This is consistent with the ICE pricing structure.
 
Anyone could buy a hybrid from $18K all the way up to Avalon territory.

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