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Replying to: jchan2 (Apr 06, 2006 6:01 pm) 
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Replying to: logic1 (Apr 05, 2006 5:25 pm) I do believe that GM's problems are indicative of their automotive engineering. It is a corporate culture. Chrysler and Ford are in trouble, but nothing like GM. And yes, there are generally other sources for technical information on the hybrid system used in the Vue. I posted a link to one of them. And, of course, our host, Edmunds.com, is a great "3rd party" site for information. So far I haven't found anyone who makes the claims that you presented as being from GM.
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Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 09, 2006 1:33 pm) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/AutoshowArticles/articleId=108808 The article reads as though it comes from GM, which makes sense, as Edmunds does not have access to a VUE Hybrid at present. No one does. GM has not started making them yet. As you appear to doubt I got the original information from GM, here is the link to where I read it at the Saturn sight: http://www.saturn.com/saturn/vehicles/futurevehicles/index.jsp
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Replying to: logic1 (Apr 09, 2006 2:12 pm) I have no doubt you got the details from GM; it is just that I don't trust GM to tell the whole tale (without some proof, either by reviews of the actual product or by some detailed engineering information). I would like to see the technical details of the GM system. I do see that GM is claiming electrical assist, but I have not seen the technical details, such as one finds on the HSD and IMA systems, telling exactly how the "electrical assist" works. Part of the reason I am wary is that the GM system only runs about $2000 more than the ICE version. Either it is less complex than even the IMA (which is fairly simple), or GM is incredibly efficient. If Toyota can't make a full hybrid for that price, and Honda can't make a hybrid for that price, it is difficult for me to believe that GM can do so. So I am skeptical on their claims until proven with engineering details. So far the only claims I have seen are the ones I have described earlier. I will keep an open mind on the subject until details are available. BTW, this is not shouting. THIS IS SHOUTING...
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Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 10, 2006 11:49 am) This is cheaper than the current ToyHonFord (Escape) system because it does not require an additional set of gears to the electric engine.* But that is the point GM is making for the Green Line. They are not claiming the Green Line will get Prius mpgs. Rather, they are saying at almost no cost to the consumer allowing the IRS rebate, the Greenline will return gas mileage closer to a compact car than a compact SUV. I do not see how this is misleading or unfair in any way. I've always seen all bold outside of the title line as shouting as well. To each their own, I suppose. *n.b.: If my understanding is correct, the hybrid Daimler and GM are developing will incorporate the electric engines within the drive train. This should also keep prices somewhat lower than they are now.
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Replying to: logic1 (Apr 10, 2006 12:52 pm) http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/08/gm_to_introduce.html
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Replying to: pisulino (Apr 10, 2006 4:00 pm) Hmmm, GM is claiming it will provide some boost during acceleration, which is a bit more than a basic BAS. It will be interesting to watch this and see how well it works. 10kw is pretty small HP... |
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http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=159971,00.html $650. 
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A reporter from a large daily newspaper is looking to speak to current or previous Saturn owners that went to the homecoming events in Springhill, TN sometime around 1994 and 2000. Please provide your daytime contact info to ctalati edmunds.com no later than Friday, October 20, 2006.
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Since the VUE Green Line is a brand new vehicle, we'll pretty much be building this group from scratch. I'll be creating some of the basic discussions that we will need, like: New Saturn VUE Green Line Owners -Give Us Your Report Saturn VUE Green Line - Real World MPG Numbers Saturn VUE Green Line Interior & Passenger Comfort Questions Saturn VUE Green Line Tire/Wheel Questions Saturn VUE Green Line Hybrid Engine Issues Saturn VUE Green Line Transmission Questions Saturn VUE Green Line Suspension/Steering Issues Saturn VUE Green Line Driving Tips & Tricks VUE Green Line - A New Hybrid System? Please be sure to check the discussion list on the main Saturn VUE Green Line Hybrid Group page for an appropriate discussion before you post. Being a new vehicle, there certainly could be issues that come up that will be unique and need their own discussions. Please feel free tostart up new discussions as new issues arise. Thanks for your help in getting the Saturn VUE Green Line Hybrid Group off the ground! |
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