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Re: The word is Muscle [prentir] by m1miata
Nov 17, 2006 (8:29 pm)
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Replying to: prentir (Nov 17, 2006 6:13 am)

To be a profitable endeavor, the Camaro as a Pony car is the only hope. While a few people will pay top dollar for additional HP, it is best to first build around a concept of balanced performance, and overall build quality first, then add other renditions as specialty cars. The $22K car, give or take a thousand, is a good target. If the car must sell into the $24K range with a good V6, like the 3.6 GM has, then so be it. I would not go too low on quality or HP on the engine, and make it pretty much the engine. A V8 could be an option for around $30K range, with more bells, whistles, and larger wheels for those in need of a macho image. The Solstice Coupe Concept, with a 3.6 V6 would have made an awesome sports car / Camaro. If they could reduce size and weight, the 255HP V6 would have as much speed to it as does the GT Mustang with 300HP. Go independent suspension and it would steal a lot of sales from Ford. I think the current Mustang GT has gotten too expensive for a Pony car with a solid axle. And it is picking up weight and size with every new rendition. The 2004 model was plenty large. Likewise the Camaro should be much - much smaller than the monster as displayed.
-Loren
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New Camaro by odie6l
Nov 18, 2006 (4:38 pm)
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The new Camaro is going to be the Featured Car at this years Philadelphia International Auto Show (Feb 3rd - Feb 11th 2007)
 
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#100 of 231
New Camaro by oilman1
Nov 19, 2006 (5:39 pm)
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Well Iam quite happy GM is bringing back the Camaro,Ive owned a few of them and had alot of fun with them.Ive always found them to be durable.They take alot of punishment,especially from the younger guys.I think the LS1 should be fine,is a few add on features a guy can do to boost these engines up as well.I think as long as they can keep the prices competative they should do alright.I think price will be the key to this car making it.It has a select market,once its too high then I think most would look to a Vette.
#101 of 231
Re: Not "Made in the USA" [vigla] by albook
Nov 20, 2006 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: vigla (Oct 06, 2006 10:36 am)

If they do plummet, it will have nothing to do with that comaro! THa thing is so disapointing, especially compared to Challenger! And where's the retro?! Serously if I had coice between Mustang and /comaro, I'd choose Mustang (the only ford product I'd buy right now).
#102 of 231
Re: Not "Made in the USA" [albook] by casull
Nov 22, 2006 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: albook (Nov 20, 2006 5:31 pm)

According to their last earnings statement, GM is actually pulling a profit. It will not look that way on paper becasue they had to write off in the neighborhood of like $2 Billion from two quarters ago, but if you adjust for that and ONLY look at what they did last quarter they pulled in a $500 Mill profit. I'd say they are starting back on the upswing. With all of their recent efforts towards revitilizing the brands with a push towards quality and innovation I would say GM is in no threat. Now Ford.... that's another story.
 
As for the Camaro, I honestly believe they are going to use this car as their flagship product to usher in a new era in American car manufacturing. I would not be suprised to see them offer a powerful V-8 that gets amazing mileage with a new refined interior that plagued GM in the past because they looked so cheap. I can't wait for the car.
#103 of 231
Re: Not "Made in the USA" [casull] by albook
Nov 22, 2006 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: casull (Nov 22, 2006 6:18 am)

Okay-no doubt. But that's got nothing to do with how the mustang looks waaaaaayyyyyy better than this thing. ButIcan believe this is the best they can do. Look at the Impala! it competes with the Charger, yet looks like an Accord! And the GTO! I think it's nice, but it also competes with Mustang, and has no great styling to it! And where's Pontiac Bonnevile (G8 or whatever)in this mix? Like I said, Challenger will probably defeat them all!
#104 of 231
Re: Not "Made in the USA" [albook] by casull
Nov 22, 2006 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: albook (Nov 22, 2006 6:32 am)

Challenger will defeat them all? What exactly do you mean by this? In terms of sales? In terms of power? If you mean in terms of sales you are going to be sadly mistaken. the Challenger is going to be a limited production vehicle and is not being designed for a mass market like the Stang and Camaro. In terms of performance? Probably not, but that is to be determined once we see some numbers. Early estimates have the Challenger weigning in at around 4,000lbs and with the speculated 425HP engine, that is a pretty high LB/HP ratio. If the Camaro weighs in at the 3,800 mark or less with at least 400HP it will chew up ans spit out the Challenger and Stang.
 
If you mean the styling... well that is personal preference. I really do like the look of the new Challenger. However, IMO it is too retro to survive a long life production.
#105 of 231
Well... by albook
Nov 22, 2006 (10:59 am)
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Challenger is going to be a limited production vehicle
Are you sure? I bet it will sell so well that production numbers will be upped. I think this is the case of also better looking "stang." The Mustang is very retro and still sells great. As for performance, Chrylser knows a little something about this nitch, so weight will probably be lower than 3900lbs (that's just humongous)so Challenger should still beat Camaro. And power will definitely be upped to stake any chances Comaro will have with corvette engine and to compete with Mustang Shelby. At the Chicago Auto Show, Challenger got better response than Camaro. and was voted in the top three best concepts there(can't remember if it won). This Camaro is a disapointment.
#106 of 231
Coolest Pony Gm could make by m1miata
Nov 24, 2006 (11:16 am)
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The Solstice Coupe Concept car would be the coolest Pony car which GM could produce. It has the looks, the size and weight to be a winner. Should add the 3.6 V6 engine, and bingo, a smooth and fast sports car. The current concept Camaro is just a monster, as is the Challenger. They are going to build the Challenger off the Charger, which is fat enough for a four door family car. It too will be heavy and way too wide. As for those in need of speed, and big engines, just find a used Corvette. I am sure a 6.0 with 400HP or more would fill the need. Actually, the last Camaro SS had the HP and speed most people can't handle. Placing a 3.6 V6 in the Solstice/Camaro Coupe would give it speed like a V8 or better, and handling with the better weight distribution, like a sports car.
Zero to a speeding ticket, or ability to wrap the car around a tree can easily be achieved without gas guzzling, huge pushrod engines. If needed, the 5.0 V8 could be an option - something like the Mustang has in the 4.6 V8, though the 3.6 V6 GM has would be a sweet option, IMHO.
-Loren
#107 of 231
Re: Coolest Pony Gm could make [m1miata] by albook
Nov 24, 2006 (5:11 pm)
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Replying to: m1miata (Nov 24, 2006 11:16 am)

Have you seen mustang times? The Challenger and Camaro should have performance similar to this (which is very good!) Look at the Cobra 500! The 3.6 probably will be an option. Do you hate American heritage?

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