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Replying to: rabidporcupine (Mar 03, 2006 11:18 pm) you: "yes" me: Why? The previous generation started with around 275hp in the Z28 and peaked at around 305hp or 310hp for the Z28. And the performance of the Z28 soundly spanked the Mustang of the day. Were those Camaros mediocre? Certainly not from a performance standpoint, yet the Mustang KILLED the F-bodies in sales. Why should this be? Are you saying that Americans are naturally attracted to mediocre cars? That would be one perspective. Another would be that some folks don't spend their life in one stoplight duel after another and want general day-to-day livibility out of their cars as well. Let's assume that GM finds a way to put the LS2 in a new Z28 and bring the car to market for the mid-upper $20's (say....$27.5k). Do you think they can actually DO this and not cut costs/corners in the car? What do you think happens to insurance rates with 400hp available in a sub-$30k car? How would the new Camaro avoid the same thing that killed the old Camaro? Ford has shown (and GM should learn) that performance, and performance ALONE, does not necessarily lead to a sales success. If GM can find a way for the car to be a success with performance SIMILAR to the Mustang, then they can re-introduce the SS version with the LS2. |
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Replying to: navigator89 (Feb 09, 2006 1:44 pm) I think this car is coming out too late, I am afraid that in 09 gas will be $5/gal and many will not be looking at V8's for a daily drive cars. Think they need to come out with a 6 cylinder DOHC as a base engine. |
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The New Camaro, in my opinion, should have the 3.6 V6 available in the CTS as the base engine. Weight should not exceed 3,300#, using weight saving methods, and scaling down the size. This show car is too wide to fit in my home town streets. Make the new Camaro a sports car instead of an overweight car with a monster engine. Gas is not going to be getting cheaper, the V6 is lighter and 50/50 weight distribution is easier to do. Keep the cost low in the range of $21K, with options to pump up the bling-bling to a $28K car if need be to satisfy those badly needing fluff. And the V8 engine could be 300HP, and the car faster than the Stang due to lighter weight and better transmission. I know the dream ends and now I fall out of bed. I may never own a GM car again. It would take a lot of things coming together. First and foremost the company has to survive, then the car has to make sense to buy. Maybe a used Corvette -- kinda a specialty GM car. Hard to believe it is a Chevy for some reason. Most of those seem only to come to mind when thinking of rental cars, or bargain transportation. Anyway, a sports car Camaro, might be something to consider, in the third year of production. Loren P.S. A 2,800# or less Camaro would be just awesome. |
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Mr Rorr, I'm not really interested in bean counting arguements. How do you feel about the prospect of factory 427 Camaros running around on the streets again? Are you even more opposed?
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Replying to: rabidporcupine (Mar 06, 2006 2:52 am) Gee, that sounds like fun. Hey, while we're dreaming let's just wish that GM would drop a 540 crate motor into these things and offer them for $19,995. You may want to direct your bean counting ire to GM. I'm simply trying to talk, rationally, about what (IMO) GM needs to offer in the car AND STILL SELL LOTS OF UNITS FOR A PROFIT. You are aware that GM (particularly at this stage) must actually sell units for a profit? You never really answered my implied question: why would a 300 hp Camaro be mediocre? If the Mustang GT offered 400hp, would a 400hp Camaro be mediocre? |
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around 20K base. You used to be able to get a V8 for 22K. Look, here is the deal... They should be able to have the 240hp V6 in the base model for around 20 - 25K. Then they can have 1 or 2 V8's. 1 V8 for 25-30K and the 6.0L for 30 - 35. |
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What's the purpose of injecting a gen6 into this? Dreaming? What are you talking about? 1 out of every 6 Corvettes coming off the line has the LS7. If you've ever built any engines, you know a 300 horse sb Chevy is a compromise. 400 n/a from a 280ci Mustang is quite a feat. I sympathize with anyone trying to do it.
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And the aforementioned 3.6 with around 260HP for around $24k. It may be pricier than Mustang, but the engines will be stronger, and the body much sexier. Keeping it under 3500lbs for the V8 would be nice. DrFill |
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Replying to: rabidporcupine (Mar 06, 2006 7:36 pm) I had no idea Z06 production was so high. Is that the permanent target ratio or is that a temporary measure until they catch up with Z06 demand? BTW-what's the purpose of injecting the LS7 into this? A 300hp sb Chevy is a compromise? All engines are a compromise. You could probably build a 600hp sb Chevy; is anything less a compromise? Yes 400hp from a n/a 4.6l Ford would be a substantial feat. Of course, Ford has a 400hp n/a 5.0l crate motor version of the 4.6 available. You still haven't answered my question: why is the concept of a 300hp Camaro mediocre? Is your ONLY yardstick the hp level of the Mustang?
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Replying to: rorr (Mar 07, 2006 6:03 am)  Thanks!
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