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#216 of 231 Re: After seeing Transformers yesterday... [bigblockrulz]
Aug 09, 2007 (8:10 pm)
Hey I just love to see these pony cars coming out and looking so retro. To me the new camaro looks great..sssoooo much better than the f-bodies! The current Mustang looks great..hey..sales speak for themselves..and the new Challenger looks like a mopar man's dreams. As far as prices, you chevy fans may not have to worry too much. Word on the street is that by 2010..mustang will be sporting a new series of V8s..a 5.0 Ltr...and a 6.2 ltr (thats right..bigger than the hemmi and chevy engine) producing over 430 hp. The 5.0 should be between 350-400hp. Will that rumor come true? C&D magazine..along with others..seem to think so (google "Boss" modular engine and you will see) If thats the case the mustang will likely move up in price. Only thing you really have to worry about is if the Tang comes with the new engines..and remains 2K less than the camaro..in which dejavu will set in. But I don't hate on american brands..I hope there is enough room for the big 3..I'd much rather have a challenger, stang, or camaro than any overseas crap..happy light hunting in this new musclecar era..it should be very..very fun!
#217 of 231 Re: After seeing Transformers yesterday... [jrl]
Aug 19, 2007 (10:59 am)
Well I am not so sure the replicar idea for car manufactures, other than fiberglass replica builders, is a good thing. I think the New Stang is too, what I call replicar, and not imaginative enough. It is also bigger. The 1994 make over for the Mustang was wonderful. And the car was moving along in transitions of design well enough. To go back in time, and use a '65 looking (cheaper plastic) interior on a 69' looking car, minus the chrome bumpers and higher doors, more fitting the chop tops and Chrysler 300, is not my idea of perfect pony car.
The New Camaro would look hot, if they lower the beltline, take five to six inches off the width, and don't go crazy on the wheel sizes. Use 17" for the V6 and 18" on the V8 beef model. As for muscle cars, they are the additional cars in every model. The Mustang, Camaro, Barracuda, Challenger and such were first a Pony Car, and secondly a muscle car in a modified version of the car. A Pontiac GTO came from more humble, or less aggressive origins.
Of the GM cars made of steel, the '69 Camaro is still perhaps the most perfect an effort to day. Perfect in form, such a lovely gal. For some reason, I always think of Camaro as the pretty gal, and Mustang was more that mean guy, the junkyard dog. The AMX, 'Cuda and Challenger are most excellent as well. Would like to see the Corvair Monza return. I owned a Miata for three years (may get another again some day) and it has that good looks, low cost and let's play attitude.
I owned a '65 Mustang way back between years 1970 - 73, and was there for every release night at the dealerships to see all the new Camaros and such. A Pony car is fairly light, not too wide (as in like a commercial truck width), has a door you can hand an elbow out of, and priced for the common Joe. This bling-bling monster wheels and massive size has nothing to do with a Pony car. Makes an interesting show car, I guess.
#218 of 231 ANYONE HAVE ANY SOLID WEIGHT SPECS YET?
Aug 31, 2007 (1:40 pm)
Yes, the new camaro is nice to look at, but the #1 consideration for true enthusiasts should be the car's weight, period. Everyone knows that the zeta platform adds about 400 lbs when compared to either the f-bodies (old camaros) or v-bodies (gto, monaro, etc.) due to the more complicated IRS. (Look at the current g8's and holden commodores.) For those who dont know the origin of the zeta platform, it is a cheapened version of the Cadillac Sigma platform developed in the 90's...actually it is identical except for the lack of lightweight composite materials. Also, this car is MANDATED to have 5 star crash rating and it WILL have displacement on demand...all of which add a considerable amount of weight. I cant see this thing coming in at less than 3800 lbs...which means that, performance-wise, the new camaro will be inferior to a 2004-2006 GTO with a LS3 crate motor, which is coming next year. If that turns out to be the case, there is NO WAY that I'm going to buy a new camaro with LESS performance potential than a 5 year old goat, no matter HOW good it looks. (Yes, I know that the last generation F bodies are lighter still, but solid rear axle = doo doo).
#219 of 231 Re: After seeing Transformers yesterday... [danmark]
Nov 08, 2007 (3:34 pm)
A Dodge Quad Cab? How exotic. Don't know why in the world you'd think about trying to trade that in on a next generation Camaro.
#220 of 231 Re: ANYONE HAVE ANY SOLID WEIGHT SPECS YET? [ebae]
Nov 08, 2007 (3:37 pm)
Why whine about a couple hundred pounds? The thing to whine about is that GM cancelled the project twice, causing it to get to the market a scant 4 years late, and its gonna cost waaaayyy more than it should. And it'll still be a Chevy.
#221 of 231 concept camaro
Jan 19, 2008 (2:47 pm)
If they build them...people will by them. I know I will. I agree building different versions for pricing is the ticket for the life of the camaro. As long as a "fast" version is available (which I'd buy).This legend should NOT die !
#222 of 231 Future Camaro
Jan 22, 2008 (7:31 pm)
I love the Camaro. I had a 1974 and a 1976. I'm glad that they are coming back. I plan to buy one, my mustang will be paid off by then and it will be time for a new car. I have a limited 2004 mustang converable, which I truley love and have a good time driving,but when I heard that the Camaro was coming back, I knew it was time for another one. Haven't heard what the starting price will be. Does anyone know?
#223 of 231 Re: Good news [navigator89]
Jan 22, 2008 (7:42 pm)
If you are going to drive a heavier car then it should be a V8. My mustang is a 6 and sometimes it can't get away from its self. Gas milage is good with a 6 but the V-8 can get you where you need to go in a lot less time. If you have to worry about the gas milage, then a Camaro isn't the car for every one.
#224 of 231 This Camaro Rocks
Apr 24, 2008 (7:17 pm)
I can't wait!! Ever since I saw the first protocol on this, I started saving my money. It sure sounded sweet, flying by on that test drive video. I can't wait to get my hands on one. I already have my name on a waiting list.
#225 of 231 Re: This Camaro Rocks [mscamaro]
Apr 25, 2008 (5:19 am)
Are they still planning on putting a 6MT in this car? This will give it a distinct advantage over the Challenger IMO.