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Re: UPDATE..... [rorr]
by dispencer2
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Apr 16, 2007 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: rorr (Apr 11, 2007 5:27 am)
I've been following this Camaro discussion and it seems to emphasize the performance elements of the Camaro -how it compares with the Mustang, etc. I hope that -like the Mustang - a wide range of models are available. I want the smallest and most economical six and automatic. I want it to look like a sports car but want it to drive like my 2006 Impala. Comfort is more important to me than handling. My old 2001 Malibu rode like a Cadillac compared to the 2006 Toyota Solara convertible that I had the misfortune to own for a month until I could dump it. Stiff ride, lots of convertible flex, etc but loved by the car writers and most owners for some obscure reason. What I'm looking for in the Camaro is a sporty convertible that drives like an Impala LT2. I'm probably the Lone Ranger in this discussion group!
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- #163 of 231
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Re: UPDATE..... [dispencer2]
by paisan
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Apr 16, 2007 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: dispencer2 (Apr 16, 2007 6:41 pm)
What would be the point? I mean I hope you aren't disappointed when the car is stiff, has a MT!
What you really want is a convertible STS or CTS!
-mike
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- #164 of 231
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Re: UPDATE..... [paisan]
by dispencer2
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Apr 17, 2007 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 16, 2007 7:08 pm)
I expect that the new Camaro will offer several different engines and suspensions just like the Mustang does. GM will have to tailor the car to different buyers just like Ford does. The old Camaro could have been ordered with a number of options from rental car austere to a performance model. I wouldn't mind a CTS convertible and will look at one when it comes out. If I was just interested in power I'd buy a used Ferrari. Plenty are available and it will beat anything produced by GM hands down.
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- #165 of 231
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Re: UPDATE..... [dispencer2]
by paisan
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Apr 17, 2007 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: dispencer2 (Apr 17, 2007 12:25 pm)
Well the camaro is a sports car, and I wouldn't expect there to be too many variations of it, similar to the G8 and the GTO. You might get a V6 model but I wouldn't expect there to be a gazzillion different combinations as found on the Rustang.
-mike
Motorsports and Tuning Host
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- #166 of 231
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Re: UPDATE..... [paisan]
by dispencer2
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Apr 17, 2007 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 17, 2007 12:53 pm)
It will be interesting to see how it is marketed. The last version of the Camaro came in tame and sporty versions. GM won't want it to compete with the G6 convertible so you are probably right. It may be marketed only as a performance sports car. If so it will die on the vine as soon as gas goes up or "Global Warming" is taken seriously ,which equates to more Governmental control of emissions, gas mileage, etc. You may not like the Mustang but it sells to a wide range of buyers and I think that Camaro will have to do the same. Even back in the days of the 70's GTO Granny could get something that resembled a GTO from a distance but was just a normal compact (an intermediate now).
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- #167 of 231
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Re: UPDATE..... [dispencer2]
by paisan
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Apr 17, 2007 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: dispencer2 (Apr 17, 2007 4:28 pm)
I wouldn't count on it. This car will likely be expensive, and fall somewhere just south of the vette. As for gas prices? Doubt it will effect it at all, the people buying these cars will likely not care really. I know a lot of High Performance boats (cigarette boats) that are buying these up, and when you get 1 mpg in your boat, no matter how bad the milage of the sports car it won't effect you.
-mike
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- #168 of 231
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Re: UPDATE..... [paisan]
by dispencer2
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Apr 18, 2007 (4:35 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 17, 2007 4:50 pm)
I guess I'm missing the boat (no pun intended!). I figured that the new Camaro would be priced about like the last version. If it will be in the high 30's or low '40's and will appeal to people who want a bigger Corvette with a back seat, you are totally right. There would be no reason to produce a car for mass consumption and it would certainly have a leg up on the Mustang. It would be in the Corvette category and neither Ford nor Chrysler have any competitive cars. I probably will opt for a CTS convertible but will look around. I have am '03 Deville, '06 Impala, '05 Odyssey (wife's real estate car), and an '86 Silverado 4WD so I'm not really a Corvette customer! I did have a Jag in California in the '60's and spent most of my time at the dealer. Ditto my new '86 Audi -the favorite of the car writers. I also superdetailed a 2000 Mustang convertible and put it in shows but I became paranoid about it and rain, mud, etc. so I sold it and bought the old truck to restore. I'm happy with GM. thanks. Karl
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- #169 of 231
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Re: UPDATE..... [dispencer2]
by paisan
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Apr 18, 2007 (4:40 am)
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Replying to: dispencer2 (Apr 18, 2007 4:35 am)
Karl,
Yeah I'm definitely thinking that the sticker on this car will be over $30k, probably around $32k->40k. Maybe a 6 cylinder will eak in at $28k. Then you figure with the usual rebates etc looking at street prices 25k->35k for most, with a full blown one well over 40k and closer to 50k for a "special" one. Like the SRT8 Charger full bore is selling for $45k-47k!
-mike
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- #170 of 231
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MSRPs
by rayainsw
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Apr 18, 2007 (6:36 am)
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The most current ** GUESSES ** regarding G8 pricing ( including quotes from Mr. Lutz ) strongly suggest the V6 version to start at $25K-ish and the V8 version to start at $30K\$32K-ish.
If true, I’d expect the Camaro to be at least a couple of grand less, at each engine level, to start. $23K for a V6 & $28-30K for a V8.
I think that if they price it any higher, they will not be competitive. Because the Mustang V6 and GT V8 will ( still ) be priced substantially lower.
If you look at a Camaro as a shorter G8, with a smaller back seat & no rear doors ( way oversimplified, but I suspect many people will perceive it thus ) it would likely be perceived as ‘worth less’ – regardless of the exterior styling.
Just my $2K worth . . .
- Ray
Ready for my test drive . . .
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- #171 of 231
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Re: MSRPs [rayainsw]
by paisan
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Apr 18, 2007 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Apr 18, 2007 6:36 am)
Hmm it would be nice to price it below the price of the GTO but wasn't the MSRP on those $32-33k???
-mike
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