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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 15, 2007 3:06 pm) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqqpiPr3LFE&mode=related&search= Has anyone ever heard a sweeter sounding engine? |
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 15, 2007 3:06 pm) The specifications you quoted earlier sound like they just copied the specifications from the concept assuming it would be the same in the production version. Although i wouldn't rule out a 350ish hp entry level V-8, I HIGHLY doubt we will see any iteration of the LS2 by 2009 as this is supposed to be the last year for it. |
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I suppose it is at least possible that the 2009 Camaro might utilize ( something close to ) the 2 drivetrains already announced by GM for the RWD 2008 Pontiac G8. The G8, according to Mr. Lutz, is to sell against the DC 300C & friends – strongly suggesting a base in the low 30s for the V8 version. That’s with the L76 ( with DoD renamed: AFM ) version of the 6.0L V8 and 362 \ 391 ratings for HP \ TQ ( on regular gas ) – and GM’s 6L80 six speed automatic w/manual shift capability. ** IF ** such a drivetrain is available early next year in the G8, and GM \ Pontiac does indeed price it against the 300C ( it looks to me like the 5.7L Hemi V8 currently starts at MSRP $35.5K – but is selling at more like $32.5K ) The 4.6L \ 300 HP Mustang GT, with only option = 5 speed automatic, MSRP is currently near $27K & selling for near $26K. From what I have see, the top performance Camaro appears more likely to be designed to slot in just below or as direct competition for something like the Ford Shelby GT ( Mustang ) http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0704_2007_ford_shelby_gt This price level, I think, would allow for that 362 HP V8 and the six speed automatic ( or 6 speed manual ) to be a driveline choice. I could be wrong. ( Ask my ex-wife. ) I hope I am not. Cheers, - Ray Basically enjoying driving a GM vehicle currently, with 6.0L V8 and that 6 speed automatic trans.
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Replying to: rayainsw (Mar 20, 2007 8:58 am) I think I see what you are trying to say. I guess that all depends on whether the LS3 will be any more expensive to produce than the L76. Since they are based on the same basic block architecture, my assumption is that the LS3 will not be much more expensive than the L76, so it wouldn't make much sense to offer both unless you artifically inflate the cost of the LS3 based Camaro. I don't think GM needs to keep the power ratings close to the Mustang for any reason. If there is a 50-100 hp difference between the Camaro V8 and the Mustang GT, then that is just a bigger buying incentive to choose Camaro instead of Mustang. Unless providing an L76 based powerplant would offer substantial benefits over the LS3 in other areas such as fuel costs or cheaper insurance rates (which I highly doubt it would) then I say just leave it out. |
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| I saw the new Camaro last week at the New York Auto Show. It was a beautiful convertible. I'm starting to save $$$ for it right now. | |
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/10/lutz-sounds-the-alarm-gm-puts-rwd-drive-vehic- les-on-hold/
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Replying to: m1miata (Apr 10, 2007 9:21 pm) "Lutz declared it's too late to stop the Camaro, but said "anything after that is questionable," apparently including Camaro derivatives and the Impala sedan." So it appears from this that the Camaro is still a go. But if ever tighter fuel standards/CO2 standards are a big issue, will a BIG V8 still be the 'obvious' choice for a base V8?
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Replying to: rorr (Apr 11, 2007 6:27 am) Eitherway, I still think the LS3 will appear, but as for a base V8... the L76 is looking like a prime candidate. |
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Replying to: rorr (Apr 11, 2007 6:27 am)
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Replying to: dispencer2 (Apr 16, 2007 7:41 pm) What you really want is a convertible STS or CTS!  -mike
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