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Re: And I quote: [maudit87] by rorr
Mar 14, 2007 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 14, 2007 1:22 pm)

"Don't know if anyone corrected this, but this is straight out of Muscle Car Milestones:"
 
What in the heck is "Muscle Car Milestones"?
 
Where did you see info regarding the Z28 (with the LS4 5.3l) and the SS (with the LS2 6.0l)?
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Re: And I quote: [rorr] by maudit87
Mar 14, 2007 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: rorr (Mar 14, 2007 1:45 pm)

Its a series of mags(milestones series) presented by Old Car Trader.
 
The one I picked up and am qouting out of is Musclecar Milestones.
 
It features information on the new Camaro, Challenger and the GT-500, among older muscle cars. It's in a section talking about the engine in the Camaro towards the end of the article.
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Re: And I quote: [maudit87] by jpstax1
Mar 15, 2007 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 14, 2007 1:22 pm)

You mention active fuel management for the LS2. Do you think it's a foregone conclusion that AFM (aka DOD) will be implemented in all GM V8 engines? BTW, I thought I read somewhere the Corvette SS will be getting the LS9 engine, which will generate 650 HP!! That's close to NASCAR power.
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Re: And I quote: [jpstax1] by maudit87
Mar 15, 2007 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 15, 2007 8:33 am)

I'm not sure. It would make sense. It said that the '09 Camaro can get 30 miles to the gallon and tear up a drag when needed, so why not put it in all the V8s makeing them an acttractive buy, especially with gas going up over the summer supposedly. I think it would be a good move.
 
Yup, something like that. I'll post the info on that when I get home, but it comes at a price; Because the car is gonna be so powerful, they're considering makeing buyers take a driveing class before purchaseing the vehicle. Which is responsiable, but could also detur people from buying it cause of the hassle. That would just cause people to buy the non-ss model, and throw some aftermarket stuff in and they'll be going faster then the SSs. The only reason someone would buy the SS is if they really like the difference in the body styling. Which I think is kinda sexy, better then the bland bodies they got on em now. I dunno. I'll post where I read it when I get home with more qoutes.
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On the Vette... by maudit87
Mar 15, 2007 (2:06 pm)
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link title
 
There you go, that's where I read about the driving class.
 
Also, you wanna see a serious Vette? Front reminds me of a Aston Martin.
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Re: On the Vette... [maudit87] by jpstax1
Mar 17, 2007 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 15, 2007 2:06 pm)

I came across this video the other day:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqqpiPr3LFE&mode=related&search=
 
Has anyone ever heard a sweeter sounding engine?
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Re: On the Vette... [maudit87] by casull
Mar 19, 2007 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 15, 2007 2:06 pm)

First of all, any information appearing in ANY automotive magazine regarding the new corvette (sting ray, SS, Z07, whatever the designation du jour is) or the 2009 Camaro is pure speculation. NO ONE knows for sure what the specifications of either car will be (let alone the "requirements" to purchase one). I can quote you several magazines that have supposed "information" on the new Camaro and they will all three be different.
 
The specifications you quoted earlier sound like they just copied the specifications from the concept assuming it would be the same in the production version. Although i wouldn't rule out a 350ish hp entry level V-8, I HIGHLY doubt we will see any iteration of the LS2 by 2009 as this is supposed to be the last year for it.
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Top Driveline motor & trans. ????? by rayainsw
Mar 20, 2007 (7:58 am)
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I suppose it is at least possible that the 2009 Camaro might utilize ( something close to ) the 2 drivetrains already announced by GM for the RWD 2008 Pontiac G8.
 
The G8, according to Mr. Lutz, is to sell against the DC 300C & friends – strongly suggesting a base in the low 30s for the V8 version.
 
That’s with the L76 ( with DoD renamed: AFM ) version of the 6.0L V8 and 362 \ 391 ratings for HP \ TQ ( on regular gas ) – and GM’s 6L80 six speed automatic w/manual shift capability.
 
** IF ** such a drivetrain is available early next year in the G8, and GM \ Pontiac does indeed price it against the 300C ( it looks to me like the 5.7L Hemi V8 currently starts at MSRP $35.5K – but is selling at more like $32.5K )
 
The 4.6L \ 300 HP Mustang GT, with only option = 5 speed automatic, MSRP is currently near $27K & selling for near $26K. From what I have see, the top performance Camaro appears more likely to be designed to slot in just below or as direct competition for something like the Ford Shelby GT ( Mustang )
 
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0704_2007_ford_shelby_gt
 
This price level, I think, would allow for that 362 HP V8 and the six speed automatic ( or 6 speed manual ) to be a driveline choice.
 
I could be wrong. ( Ask my ex-wife. )
 
I hope I am not.
 
Cheers,
- Ray
Basically enjoying driving a GM vehicle currently, with 6.0L V8 and that 6 speed automatic trans.
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Re: Top Driveline motor & trans. ????? [rayainsw] by casull
Apr 03, 2007 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Mar 20, 2007 7:58 am)

"This price level, I think, would allow for that 362 HP V8 and the six speed automatic ( or 6 speed manual ) to be a driveline choice."
 
I think I see what you are trying to say. I guess that all depends on whether the LS3 will be any more expensive to produce than the L76. Since they are based on the same basic block architecture, my assumption is that the LS3 will not be much more expensive than the L76, so it wouldn't make much sense to offer both unless you artifically inflate the cost of the LS3 based Camaro.
 
I don't think GM needs to keep the power ratings close to the Mustang for any reason. If there is a 50-100 hp difference between the Camaro V8 and the Mustang GT, then that is just a bigger buying incentive to choose Camaro instead of Mustang. Unless providing an L76 based powerplant would offer substantial benefits over the LS3 in other areas such as fuel costs or cheaper insurance rates (which I highly doubt it would) then I say just leave it out.
#158 of 231
Saw the new Camaro by lostwrench
Apr 10, 2007 (2:52 pm)
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I saw the new Camaro last week at the New York Auto Show. It was a beautiful convertible. I'm starting to save $$$ for it right now.

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