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Replying to: drfill (Mar 01, 2006 6:01 pm) Putting only automatic models of a sports car would be a bad move. I think it would drastically kill sales. Don't know if anyone corrected this, but this is straight out of Muscle Car Milestones: Specifications - 2009 Chevrolet Camaro SS (I'm just going to the list the engine specs) Engine Type - Aluminum V8 Displacment - 6.0L Horsepower - 400 with Active Fuel Management Tranmission - T-10 Six Speed Manual Suspenion - MacPherson strut front, multilink rear, progressive rate coil springs (paraphraseing) The Article on this car also says, production will ramp up at the end of 2008 and go on sale in the first quater of 2009. The Z28 is gonna feature an LS4 5.3L V8 (the SS is an LS2) would probaly put out around 340hp. (if they are actualy doing a Z28, I believe this is speculation) To sucessfuly compete with the Mustang they have to sell 100,000 annually. I forget where, but it does say somewhere in the article that the engine is the base Corvette engine. Sorry if this has already been stated, but my brain went numb after I read that. But I think were looking at 26k to 30k priceing. Aside from porformance, I think the Camaro could compete with the Stang on looks alone. Looks sell most cars. |
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 14, 2007 1:22 pm) What in the heck is "Muscle Car Milestones"? Where did you see info regarding the Z28 (with the LS4 5.3l) and the SS (with the LS2 6.0l)?
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Replying to: rorr (Mar 14, 2007 1:45 pm) The one I picked up and am qouting out of is Musclecar Milestones. It features information on the new Camaro, Challenger and the GT-500, among older muscle cars. It's in a section talking about the engine in the Camaro towards the end of the article. |
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 14, 2007 1:22 pm)
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 15, 2007 8:33 am) Yup, something like that. I'll post the info on that when I get home, but it comes at a price; Because the car is gonna be so powerful, they're considering makeing buyers take a driveing class before purchaseing the vehicle. Which is responsiable, but could also detur people from buying it cause of the hassle. That would just cause people to buy the non-ss model, and throw some aftermarket stuff in and they'll be going faster then the SSs. The only reason someone would buy the SS is if they really like the difference in the body styling. Which I think is kinda sexy, better then the bland bodies they got on em now. I dunno. I'll post where I read it when I get home with more qoutes. |
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link title There you go, that's where I read about the driving class. Also, you wanna see a serious Vette? Front reminds me of a Aston Martin.
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 15, 2007 2:06 pm) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqqpiPr3LFE&mode=related&search= Has anyone ever heard a sweeter sounding engine? |
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 15, 2007 2:06 pm) The specifications you quoted earlier sound like they just copied the specifications from the concept assuming it would be the same in the production version. Although i wouldn't rule out a 350ish hp entry level V-8, I HIGHLY doubt we will see any iteration of the LS2 by 2009 as this is supposed to be the last year for it. |
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I suppose it is at least possible that the 2009 Camaro might utilize ( something close to ) the 2 drivetrains already announced by GM for the RWD 2008 Pontiac G8. The G8, according to Mr. Lutz, is to sell against the DC 300C & friends – strongly suggesting a base in the low 30s for the V8 version. That’s with the L76 ( with DoD renamed: AFM ) version of the 6.0L V8 and 362 \ 391 ratings for HP \ TQ ( on regular gas ) – and GM’s 6L80 six speed automatic w/manual shift capability. ** IF ** such a drivetrain is available early next year in the G8, and GM \ Pontiac does indeed price it against the 300C ( it looks to me like the 5.7L Hemi V8 currently starts at MSRP $35.5K – but is selling at more like $32.5K ) The 4.6L \ 300 HP Mustang GT, with only option = 5 speed automatic, MSRP is currently near $27K & selling for near $26K. From what I have see, the top performance Camaro appears more likely to be designed to slot in just below or as direct competition for something like the Ford Shelby GT ( Mustang ) http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0704_2007_ford_shelby_gt This price level, I think, would allow for that 362 HP V8 and the six speed automatic ( or 6 speed manual ) to be a driveline choice. I could be wrong. ( Ask my ex-wife. ) I hope I am not. Cheers, - Ray Basically enjoying driving a GM vehicle currently, with 6.0L V8 and that 6 speed automatic trans.
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Replying to: rayainsw (Mar 20, 2007 7:58 am) I think I see what you are trying to say. I guess that all depends on whether the LS3 will be any more expensive to produce than the L76. Since they are based on the same basic block architecture, my assumption is that the LS3 will not be much more expensive than the L76, so it wouldn't make much sense to offer both unless you artifically inflate the cost of the LS3 based Camaro. I don't think GM needs to keep the power ratings close to the Mustang for any reason. If there is a 50-100 hp difference between the Camaro V8 and the Mustang GT, then that is just a bigger buying incentive to choose Camaro instead of Mustang. Unless providing an L76 based powerplant would offer substantial benefits over the LS3 in other areas such as fuel costs or cheaper insurance rates (which I highly doubt it would) then I say just leave it out. |
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