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Replying to: casull (Feb 23, 2007 8:17 am) Other quick fixes like the GM Employee pricing thing from a year and half or so ago was also a bad decision, and diminished their product name even further. They had something like a 25% dropoff in sales after they ended that promo. Don't get me wrong, Ford made the same idiotic mistake too, but they were just following GM's play. There are clear reasons why tens of thousands of GM workers are being laid off and their pensions being cut, and in my view those same lay off's and firings just don't scream out, "HEY we're GM, and we're building quality products! Don't mind the plant closings and the cutbacks that we've made by moving operations to Mexico and Canada, that's just part of our master plan to continue to have subpar workers build our stuff!" Honestly, I'd attempt to buy their product again if a few things changed, but until I see some quality reports and research done on them I won't. Almost every long term report that I've read talks about maintenance issues that are far more expensive than their rivals. And it's not motors or drivetrain like it is with Dodge products, it's the little things like wire harnasses and stupid little things from a lack of attention to detail. All I'd like them to do is build a quality product everytime instead of the inconsistant stuff that roles off their line. It's a crap shoot if you get a good car or bad one, and that's just not fair to the consumer, nor towards GM's longterm goal of keeping lifelong buyers. Next time your on the road, try to see how many brand new trailblazers and the endless line of GM clones that use the same design that have all their brake lights out, or maybe just the left one. This is a common complaint that is brought up by owners, yet GM has done nothing to fix it, not even a recall letter. Why? Well, that's anyone's guess. |
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The last gen was discontinued for one major reason: it was junk. It was poorly assembled, the seats were cheap and thin as lawn chairs, and the interior plastics belonged in a base Cavalier. It finally died when teenagers got smart and moved to Civics and Integras. The new Camaro should do everything it can to distance itself from that abomination. 
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Replying to: rabidporcupine (Mar 03, 2006 11:18 pm) Answer: yes" So do I. Why offer the same engine as the Impala SS, Monte SS, and the soon to be sold Buick LaCrosse Super? Set the regular Camaro apart with the more powerful LS2, and offer the LS7 in an SS model (with the Corvette GM's permission).
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| They unveiled the new Camaro way to early before release the hype is diminishing and their sales will be average, mostly to Camaro enthusiasts. For the Pony the re-engineering of it isn't until 2009, thats too long tarnishing the name into Ford Unquality Moves. | |
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 05, 2007 1:08 pm) 300HP is likely to be around the power produced by the entry level V-6, so the V-8 will certainly be substantially more powerful. Moreover, the LS2 and LS7 will be discontinued by the time the Camaro come around. There will more than likey be some variation of the 6.2L (either the L92 or the LS3) as the V-8 with the possibility of somewhere around 420 - 450HP. I don't think the Camaro will have to worry about differentiating itself in the power department. "They unveiled the new Camaro way to early before release the hype is diminishing and their sales will be average, mostly to Camaro enthusiasts. For the Pony the re-engineering of it isn't until 2009, thats too long tarnishing the name into Ford Unquality Moves." The hype is diminishing? How exactly are you gauging the so-called hype? Actually, I would argue that the majority of the people who will end up purchasing this car are not even aware that it is in the works. The only people who are aware that a 5th gen Camaro even exists are the enthusiests, and their "hype" will certainly not die over the course of 1.5 years. |
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Replying to: walterquint (Mar 03, 2007 8:32 am) i often regret trading away my Y2K hurst/Z28 and ending up with pontiac GTO (which looks like AMC pacer, except even uglier), although i do appreciate the better ride/suspension/seats/interior of the GTO. i will definitely be considering the "fifth-gen" camaro. (maybe it won't really be a fifth-gen since it is not an f-body). also i'll be looking at the Pontiac G8. |
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Replying to: drfill (Mar 01, 2006 6:01 pm) Putting only automatic models of a sports car would be a bad move. I think it would drastically kill sales. Don't know if anyone corrected this, but this is straight out of Muscle Car Milestones: Specifications - 2009 Chevrolet Camaro SS (I'm just going to the list the engine specs) Engine Type - Aluminum V8 Displacment - 6.0L Horsepower - 400 with Active Fuel Management Tranmission - T-10 Six Speed Manual Suspenion - MacPherson strut front, multilink rear, progressive rate coil springs (paraphraseing) The Article on this car also says, production will ramp up at the end of 2008 and go on sale in the first quater of 2009. The Z28 is gonna feature an LS4 5.3L V8 (the SS is an LS2) would probaly put out around 340hp. (if they are actualy doing a Z28, I believe this is speculation) To sucessfuly compete with the Mustang they have to sell 100,000 annually. I forget where, but it does say somewhere in the article that the engine is the base Corvette engine. Sorry if this has already been stated, but my brain went numb after I read that. But I think were looking at 26k to 30k priceing. Aside from porformance, I think the Camaro could compete with the Stang on looks alone. Looks sell most cars. |
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Replying to: maudit87 (Mar 14, 2007 1:22 pm) What in the heck is "Muscle Car Milestones"? Where did you see info regarding the Z28 (with the LS4 5.3l) and the SS (with the LS2 6.0l)?
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Replying to: rorr (Mar 14, 2007 1:45 pm) The one I picked up and am qouting out of is Musclecar Milestones. It features information on the new Camaro, Challenger and the GT-500, among older muscle cars. It's in a section talking about the engine in the Camaro towards the end of the article. |
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